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Attributes | |
ACN | 677324 |
Time | |
Date | 200511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 790 |
ASRS Report | 677324 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 19R las; heavy with slight tailwind indicating; I elected to roll past taxiway west exit; to avoid heating the brakes; as we had another las-lax leg to fly with the same jet. I exited on taxiway B with a right turn; and I committed to a right turn to taxiway F when tower issued taxi instructions to use taxiway H; then there was a break in transmission and we were told to contact ground. We slowed our taxi and the ground controller said we were on a closed taxiway; and to proceed to taxiway west and hold short. Ground then gave us clearance to cross runway 19R; not tower; then taxi via taxiway west; taxiway G; then taxiway B. After we crossed runway 19R/left; a group of GA jets were given instructions to taxi via taxiway F to their ramp. After re-reading all the NOTAMS; ATIS and reviewing the construction zones; we found no message that taxiway F was closed; ever closed; nor is it marked as such. Taxiway H looks to be very narrow; and I assumed it would not be utilized for the A320 aircraft. This is the reason I continued my right turn after exiting runway 19R. The construction at las is extensive; currently; and I am not too sure that the 10-8 is covering all the areas being expanded/repaired. There might be additional areas that might need to be covered. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he was confused by the taxi instructions and acknowledged the 10-9 note stating 'txwys east and F limited to MD11...aircraft larger than B757 prior permission required from department of aviation to use taxiway H.' he further stated that a very large number of GA aircraft were on the other side of the runway waiting to taxi across and utilized taxiway F to the cpr facilities. The reporter believes the controller's response was more about his stress level than the crew's taxiing location. Confounding the problem is the great deal of construction occurring on the east side of runway 19R that would have precluded the reporter from using that side of the airport to taxi once he had taxied beyond taxiway west.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER LNDG ON LAS RWY 19R AN A320 TURNED R ON TXWY F AND WAS INFORMED THAT TXWY WAS CLOSED. LATER OTHER GA ACFT WERE TAXIED ON TXWY F.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 19R LAS; HVY WITH SLIGHT TAILWIND INDICATING; I ELECTED TO ROLL PAST TXWY W EXIT; TO AVOID HEATING THE BRAKES; AS WE HAD ANOTHER LAS-LAX LEG TO FLY WITH THE SAME JET. I EXITED ON TXWY B WITH A R TURN; AND I COMMITTED TO A R TURN TO TXWY F WHEN TWR ISSUED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO USE TXWY H; THEN THERE WAS A BREAK IN XMISSION AND WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT GND. WE SLOWED OUR TAXI AND THE GND CTLR SAID WE WERE ON A CLOSED TXWY; AND TO PROCEED TO TXWY W AND HOLD SHORT. GND THEN GAVE US CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 19R; NOT TWR; THEN TAXI VIA TXWY W; TXWY G; THEN TXWY B. AFTER WE CROSSED RWY 19R/L; A GROUP OF GA JETS WERE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO TAXI VIA TXWY F TO THEIR RAMP. AFTER RE-READING ALL THE NOTAMS; ATIS AND REVIEWING THE CONSTRUCTION ZONES; WE FOUND NO MESSAGE THAT TXWY F WAS CLOSED; EVER CLOSED; NOR IS IT MARKED AS SUCH. TXWY H LOOKS TO BE VERY NARROW; AND I ASSUMED IT WOULD NOT BE UTILIZED FOR THE A320 ACFT. THIS IS THE REASON I CONTINUED MY R TURN AFTER EXITING RWY 19R. THE CONSTRUCTION AT LAS IS EXTENSIVE; CURRENTLY; AND I AM NOT TOO SURE THAT THE 10-8 IS COVERING ALL THE AREAS BEING EXPANDED/REPAIRED. THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE COVERED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE WAS CONFUSED BY THE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS AND ACKNOWLEDGED THE 10-9 NOTE STATING 'TXWYS E AND F LIMITED TO MD11...ACFT LARGER THAN B757 PRIOR PERMISSION REQUIRED FROM DEPT OF AVIATION TO USE TXWY H.' HE FURTHER STATED THAT A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF GA ACFT WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RWY WAITING TO TAXI ACROSS AND UTILIZED TXWY F TO THE CPR FACILITIES. THE RPTR BELIEVES THE CTLR'S RESPONSE WAS MORE ABOUT HIS STRESS LEVEL THAN THE CREW'S TAXIING LOCATION. CONFOUNDING THE PROB IS THE GREAT DEAL OF CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING ON THE E SIDE OF RWY 19R THAT WOULD HAVE PRECLUDED THE RPTR FROM USING THAT SIDE OF THE ARPT TO TAXI ONCE HE HAD TAXIED BEYOND TXWY W.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.