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A PA44 pilot notes that a lna transition is not listed on the FAA pbi frway one RNAV arrival but arrival controllers though it was a valid transition.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 678500 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200511 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : stoop |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-42 Cheyenne IIA |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : frway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24 flight time total : 1485 flight time type : 22.4 |
| ASRS Report | 678500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication FAA ATC Facility |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
I just flew into lna and got the frway one arrival. It was not in the government charts; my GPS had it in the box. They are new procedures ATC told me. This is very interesting. The frway one arrival does not show up in the FAA database as approved for lna; however; it is approved for 06FA-west (gwinn); F45 (north palm beach); and pbi itself. Puzzled; I contacted pbi approach and mia center speaking with the department head for that airspace. There is no letter of agreement with lna over this arrival; therefore it should not be issued. However; and this is most interesting; the staff recalls that frway one arrival was supposed to cover lna and controllers could be using it because they 'thought it was there.' even so; it should only be issued for faster turboprops and jet equipment going into the aforementioned airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA44 PLT NOTES THAT A LNA TRANSITION IS NOT LISTED ON THE FAA PBI FRWAY ONE RNAV ARR BUT ARR CTLRS THOUGH IT WAS A VALID TRANSITION.
Narrative: I JUST FLEW INTO LNA AND GOT THE FRWAY ONE ARR. IT WAS NOT IN THE GOV CHARTS; MY GPS HAD IT IN THE BOX. THEY ARE NEW PROCS ATC TOLD ME. THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. THE FRWAY ONE ARR DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THE FAA DATABASE AS APPROVED FOR LNA; HOWEVER; IT IS APPROVED FOR 06FA-W (GWINN); F45 (NORTH PALM BEACH); AND PBI ITSELF. PUZZLED; I CONTACTED PBI APCH AND MIA CTR SPEAKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR THAT AIRSPACE. THERE IS NO LETTER OF AGREEMENT WITH LNA OVER THIS ARR; THEREFORE IT SHOULD NOT BE ISSUED. HOWEVER; AND THIS IS MOST INTERESTING; THE STAFF RECALLS THAT FRWAY ONE ARR WAS SUPPOSED TO COVER LNA AND CTLRS COULD BE USING IT BECAUSE THEY 'THOUGHT IT WAS THERE.' EVEN SO; IT SHOULD ONLY BE ISSUED FOR FASTER TURBOPROPS AND JET EQUIPMENT GOING INTO THE AFOREMENTIONED ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.