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Attributes | |
ACN | 681756 |
Time | |
Date | 200512 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 681756 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Airspace Structure Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Before takeoff; the PNF and I went over the departure. He said he put the 4.5 DME point on the FMS. The departure is 1500 ft right turn 280 degrees 4.5 DME climb 2000 ft. Normal takeoff. At 1500 ft and in the turn the PNF said next 2000 ft. I thought he meant now to 2000 ft because he set the 4.5 in the FMS. I started to climb and the PNF said no not yet and I pushed over not to climb. I had reached about 1600 ft or 1700 ft and was descending when departure said maintain 1500 ft. There was no conflict and the aircraft behind us also was told to maintain 1500 ft. He also had no conflict. Next time I'll see how he put the mileage in so I'll know exactly and know what to look for also on the FMS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN HS125 DEPARTING TEB EXCEEDED THE INITIAL 1500 FT LEVELOFF ALT BEFORE DSNDING TO 1500 FT.
Narrative: BEFORE TKOF; THE PNF AND I WENT OVER THE DEP. HE SAID HE PUT THE 4.5 DME POINT ON THE FMS. THE DEP IS 1500 FT R TURN 280 DEGS 4.5 DME CLB 2000 FT. NORMAL TKOF. AT 1500 FT AND IN THE TURN THE PNF SAID NEXT 2000 FT. I THOUGHT HE MEANT NOW TO 2000 FT BECAUSE HE SET THE 4.5 IN THE FMS. I STARTED TO CLB AND THE PNF SAID NO NOT YET AND I PUSHED OVER NOT TO CLB. I HAD REACHED ABOUT 1600 FT OR 1700 FT AND WAS DSNDING WHEN DEP SAID MAINTAIN 1500 FT. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND THE ACFT BEHIND US ALSO WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT. HE ALSO HAD NO CONFLICT. NEXT TIME I'LL SEE HOW HE PUT THE MILEAGE IN SO I'LL KNOW EXACTLY AND KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR ALSO ON THE FMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.