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Attributes | |
ACN | 683972 |
Time | |
Date | 200601 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : tekbe |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 32000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : clare |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 683972 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared on the clare RNAV departure out of dfw off of runway 17R. We thoroughly reviewed each fix. Then the controller cleared us directly to clare. We executed and went there. Well past clare; the center queried us as to if we were given a vector from departure. He said that we had flown through the SID. What apparently happened is that when we executed direct clare; tekbe dropped out of the SID. We had clare; poten; and direct swb in our FMC. He immediately turned us back to tekbe (a 080 degree heading) and indicating that 'this was happening a lot with air carrier X.' (I may add that this was a pegasus airplane; which in my opinion is a far less reliable and much more difficult FMC to work with than the other.) he didn't indicate any other problems. In retrospect; I will always rechk that points a the SID after the point that I was cleared to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B757-200 EXPERIENCE A TRACK DEV ON TRANSITION PORTION OF CLARE RNAV SID FROM DFW.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED ON THE CLARE RNAV DEP OUT OF DFW OFF OF RWY 17R. WE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED EACH FIX. THEN THE CTLR CLRED US DIRECTLY TO CLARE. WE EXECUTED AND WENT THERE. WELL PAST CLARE; THE CTR QUERIED US AS TO IF WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR FROM DEP. HE SAID THAT WE HAD FLOWN THROUGH THE SID. WHAT APPARENTLY HAPPENED IS THAT WHEN WE EXECUTED DIRECT CLARE; TEKBE DROPPED OUT OF THE SID. WE HAD CLARE; POTEN; AND DIRECT SWB IN OUR FMC. HE IMMEDIATELY TURNED US BACK TO TEKBE (A 080 DEG HDG) AND INDICATING THAT 'THIS WAS HAPPENING A LOT WITH ACR X.' (I MAY ADD THAT THIS WAS A PEGASUS AIRPLANE; WHICH IN MY OPINION IS A FAR LESS RELIABLE AND MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FMC TO WORK WITH THAN THE OTHER.) HE DIDN'T INDICATE ANY OTHER PROBLEMS. IN RETROSPECT; I WILL ALWAYS RECHK THAT POINTS A THE SID AFTER THE POINT THAT I WAS CLRED TO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.