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Attributes | |
ACN | 686454 |
Time | |
Date | 200602 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 24 |
ASRS Report | 686454 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Navigational Facility FAA |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Working 'a' arrival scope at P50; traffic as a primary target; no mode C appeared less than 3 mi from air carrier X. I watched the traffic to see movement -- no movement; false target I thought. We get a lot of false targets. I told air carrier X to contact final controller; and he acknowledged. I continued to watch the primary target; then I saw movement. Still no mode C. I leaned over to tell the final controller to call traffic and he told me; 'did you see that traffic?' which then had mode C indicating 8500 with air carrier X at 8300 ft! Air carrier X called on my frequency to report an RA with a C172. We get a lot of false targets at P50; our equipment is junk. I should have called the traffic even if I thought it was false. The thing that got me was the final controller had mode C at all times and my scope did not. I reported this to management. No one came to check out my scope or to follow up on this. Very typical of this facility.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: P50 CTLR DID NOT ISSUE TFC TO AN ACR WHEN MODE C WAS NOT RECEIVED FROM AN UNKNOWN TARGET RESULTING IN A TCASII RA AT APPROX 8500 FT.
Narrative: WORKING 'A' ARR SCOPE AT P50; TFC AS A PRIMARY TARGET; NO MODE C APPEARED LESS THAN 3 MI FROM ACR X. I WATCHED THE TFC TO SEE MOVEMENT -- NO MOVEMENT; FALSE TARGET I THOUGHT. WE GET A LOT OF FALSE TARGETS. I TOLD ACR X TO CONTACT FINAL CTLR; AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED. I CONTINUED TO WATCH THE PRIMARY TARGET; THEN I SAW MOVEMENT. STILL NO MODE C. I LEANED OVER TO TELL THE FINAL CTLR TO CALL TFC AND HE TOLD ME; 'DID YOU SEE THAT TFC?' WHICH THEN HAD MODE C INDICATING 8500 WITH ACR X AT 8300 FT! ACR X CALLED ON MY FREQ TO RPT AN RA WITH A C172. WE GET A LOT OF FALSE TARGETS AT P50; OUR EQUIP IS JUNK. I SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE TFC EVEN IF I THOUGHT IT WAS FALSE. THE THING THAT GOT ME WAS THE FINAL CTLR HAD MODE C AT ALL TIMES AND MY SCOPE DID NOT. I RPTED THIS TO MGMNT. NO ONE CAME TO CHK OUT MY SCOPE OR TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS. VERY TYPICAL OF THIS FACILITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.