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Dfw controller expressed concern regarding aircraft deviation on RNAV departures from dfw and FAA's response to his/her concerns.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 686757 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200602 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 26500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-82 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : triss |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 25 |
| ASRS Report | 686757 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was assigned the triss departure out of dfw. I notified air carrier X 5.1 NM north of the departure routing and asked pilot where he was going and he said he was proceeding direct to txk VOR -- this took out intermediate fixes on departure procedures. The company is aware of these problems with the new RNAV departures. After speaking with the airspace and procedures office about these continued problems; I was told the FAA has said there are about 8 to 10 of these occurrences in 20000 operations and that is an acceptable number. If air traffic had that many deviations or operational errors; it would not be safe to fly. The FAA has identified a problem and it seems they are refusing to address it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DFW CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING ACFT DEV ON RNAV DEPS FROM DFW AND FAA'S RESPONSE TO HIS/HER CONCERNS.
Narrative: ACR X WAS ASSIGNED THE TRISS DEP OUT OF DFW. I NOTIFIED ACR X 5.1 NM N OF THE DEP ROUTING AND ASKED PLT WHERE HE WAS GOING AND HE SAID HE WAS PROCEEDING DIRECT TO TXK VOR -- THIS TOOK OUT INTERMEDIATE FIXES ON DEP PROCS. THE COMPANY IS AWARE OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW RNAV DEPS. AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE AIRSPACE AND PROCS OFFICE ABOUT THESE CONTINUED PROBLEMS; I WAS TOLD THE FAA HAS SAID THERE ARE ABOUT 8 TO 10 OF THESE OCCURRENCES IN 20000 OPERATIONS AND THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE NUMBER. IF AIR TFC HAD THAT MANY DEVS OR OPERATIONAL ERRORS; IT WOULD NOT BE SAFE TO FLY. THE FAA HAS IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM AND IT SEEMS THEY ARE REFUSING TO ADDRESS IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.