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Attributes | |
ACN | 687575 |
Time | |
Date | 200602 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 687575 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Maintenance Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
On arrival into lax we called for a spray of water due to anticipated frost buildup on the wings after fueling. During passenger boarding; ramp personnel came up and questioned if we wanted a hot water spray. I told them we did; and boarding of passenger and cargo was completed. Check-in with pushback crew was normal and we began the push. We noticed there was only water on 1 side of the ramp; and asked the tug driver if both wings were sprayed. He said only the left wing was sprayed. I sent the first officer back to check the right wing and he reported he couldn't see if there was frost but the wing was dry. I called operations to check with the deicing crew if they did both wings. They said no. I requested they come out and complete the deicing. We shut down #2 and deicing was completed. My concern is we would have taken off with only 1 wing deiced if we hadn't noticed the water on the ramp. Chances are nothing would have happened; but we could have also had an asymmetric situation. The deice crew could have stopped the pushback until both wings were completed but chose not to; creating a potential safety issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW BEGINS PUSHBACK WITH ONLY 1 WING DEICED.
Narrative: ON ARR INTO LAX WE CALLED FOR A SPRAY OF WATER DUE TO ANTICIPATED FROST BUILDUP ON THE WINGS AFTER FUELING. DURING PAX BOARDING; RAMP PERSONNEL CAME UP AND QUESTIONED IF WE WANTED A HOT WATER SPRAY. I TOLD THEM WE DID; AND BOARDING OF PAX AND CARGO WAS COMPLETED. CHK-IN WITH PUSHBACK CREW WAS NORMAL AND WE BEGAN THE PUSH. WE NOTICED THERE WAS ONLY WATER ON 1 SIDE OF THE RAMP; AND ASKED THE TUG DRIVER IF BOTH WINGS WERE SPRAYED. HE SAID ONLY THE L WING WAS SPRAYED. I SENT THE FO BACK TO CHK THE R WING AND HE RPTED HE COULDN'T SEE IF THERE WAS FROST BUT THE WING WAS DRY. I CALLED OPS TO CHK WITH THE DEICING CREW IF THEY DID BOTH WINGS. THEY SAID NO. I REQUESTED THEY COME OUT AND COMPLETE THE DEICING. WE SHUT DOWN #2 AND DEICING WAS COMPLETED. MY CONCERN IS WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN OFF WITH ONLY 1 WING DEICED IF WE HADN'T NOTICED THE WATER ON THE RAMP. CHANCES ARE NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED; BUT WE COULD HAVE ALSO HAD AN ASYMMETRIC SITUATION. THE DEICE CREW COULD HAVE STOPPED THE PUSHBACK UNTIL BOTH WINGS WERE COMPLETED BUT CHOSE NOT TO; CREATING A POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.