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Attributes | |
ACN | 688072 |
Time | |
Date | 200602 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 688072 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : pressuration controller other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We departed ZZZ1 with an MEL. MEL flight crew operating procedures were followed and we elected to depart using option #1 (takeoff with both packs off). After slat retraction; right pack was placed to 'automatic' with no response from pack. After approximately 2 mins; right pack began operating and pressurizing the airplane. The pack was erratic and unstable for the first 5 mins that it did operate after takeoff. QRH procedures were followed and the decision was made between the flight crew; dispatch and maintenance control to divert to ZZZ2. The airplane never climbed above 8000 ft and the cabin altitude never exceeded 6000 ft. As soon as it was apparent that we were going to make a diversion; we extended flaps/slats; as well as the landing gear in an effort to burn as much fuel as possible in order to reduce the landing weight below 130000 pounds. After consulting with dispatch/maintenance control; we were informed that it would be best to make an overweight landing if the time to burn fuel was going to exceed 20 mins. Their reasoning was that it would take longer to burn the excess fuel than it would take for maintenance to perform an overweight landing inspection. We landed uneventfully in ZZZ2 and taxied in to the gate. We estimate our landing weight to have been approximately 133700 pounds. After a debrief with maintenance control; our decision to use option #1 of the MEL flight crew operating procedures versus option #2 was questioned. After returning the airplane to ZZZ3 and speaking with mechanics at the ZZZ3 hangar; I'm not so sure that maybe we should have used option #2 of the MEL rather than option #1 as we did. My only comment is that maybe the company should rewrite the MEL and in doing so change the order of the MEL flight crew operating procedures options. In addition to changing the order of the crew operating procedures options; some expanded written guidance on the MEL procedures might also help matters as well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW DEPARTS WITH 1 PACK MEL'ED INOP. FLT CREW USES PUBLISHED PROCS FOR 'PACK INOP' DURING TKOF; CLB. WORKING PACK BECOMES ERRATIC; FLT CREW DIVERTS.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED ZZZ1 WITH AN MEL. MEL FLT CREW OPERATING PROCS WERE FOLLOWED AND WE ELECTED TO DEPART USING OPTION #1 (TKOF WITH BOTH PACKS OFF). AFTER SLAT RETRACTION; R PACK WAS PLACED TO 'AUTO' WITH NO RESPONSE FROM PACK. AFTER APPROX 2 MINS; R PACK BEGAN OPERATING AND PRESSURIZING THE AIRPLANE. THE PACK WAS ERRATIC AND UNSTABLE FOR THE FIRST 5 MINS THAT IT DID OPERATE AFTER TKOF. QRH PROCS WERE FOLLOWED AND THE DECISION WAS MADE BTWN THE FLT CREW; DISPATCH AND MAINT CTL TO DIVERT TO ZZZ2. THE AIRPLANE NEVER CLBED ABOVE 8000 FT AND THE CABIN ALT NEVER EXCEEDED 6000 FT. AS SOON AS IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A DIVERSION; WE EXTENDED FLAPS/SLATS; AS WELL AS THE LNDG GEAR IN AN EFFORT TO BURN AS MUCH FUEL AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE LNDG WT BELOW 130000 LBS. AFTER CONSULTING WITH DISPATCH/MAINT CTL; WE WERE INFORMED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO MAKE AN OVERWT LNDG IF THE TIME TO BURN FUEL WAS GOING TO EXCEED 20 MINS. THEIR REASONING WAS THAT IT WOULD TAKE LONGER TO BURN THE EXCESS FUEL THAN IT WOULD TAKE FOR MAINT TO PERFORM AN OVERWT LNDG INSPECTION. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY IN ZZZ2 AND TAXIED IN TO THE GATE. WE ESTIMATE OUR LNDG WT TO HAVE BEEN APPROX 133700 LBS. AFTER A DEBRIEF WITH MAINT CTL; OUR DECISION TO USE OPTION #1 OF THE MEL FLT CREW OPERATING PROCS VERSUS OPTION #2 WAS QUESTIONED. AFTER RETURNING THE AIRPLANE TO ZZZ3 AND SPEAKING WITH MECHS AT THE ZZZ3 HANGAR; I'M NOT SO SURE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE USED OPTION #2 OF THE MEL RATHER THAN OPTION #1 AS WE DID. MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT MAYBE THE COMPANY SHOULD REWRITE THE MEL AND IN DOING SO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE MEL FLT CREW OPERATING PROCS OPTIONS. IN ADDITION TO CHANGING THE ORDER OF THE CREW OPERATING PROCS OPTIONS; SOME EXPANDED WRITTEN GUIDANCE ON THE MEL PROCS MIGHT ALSO HELP MATTERS AS WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.