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Attributes | |
ACN | 690725 |
Time | |
Date | 200603 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zdv.artcc |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 503 flight time total : 5467 flight time type : 153 |
ASRS Report | 690725 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : cabin press other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Departed den; repositioning to pick up passenger. We had leveled at FL240; completed cruise checks and were given direct etl. We had a red cabin pressure annunciator come on. This comes on when the cabin altitude reaches 10000 ft. We confirmed the bleeds were on and checked cabin altitude. Sure enough it was at 10000 ft. What was unusual was the cabin differential needle was at the same spot -- usually there's a split when pressurized. Everything was ok on climb out. The copilot had set 9000 ft for landing at tex but obviously the cabin went higher. We put the masks on and told ATC we had a pressurization problem. Wanted lower and to return to den. I let the autoplt fly so we could take care of checklists. I initiated a steep (greater than 20 degree) bank and called for about a 3000 FPM descent. The autoplt didn't respond so I changed settings. Now; mixed training caused a problem. I had been taught to go to speaker with oxygen mask but my copilot used her headset. Now I was totally out of the ATC loop and couldn't hear her (I've been single pilot most of my career). I had looked over at her and she started writing notes to communicate. Neither of us noticed the autoplt had disconnected till we heard the overspd horn. I immediately looked at the instruments (we were 45 degrees bank; 25 degrees nose down and 5 KTS over barber pole. I corrected and slowed. Returned to a normal descent and leveled at 16000 ft; direct to den. Once again on autoplt and everything (except annunciator) normal. I put on the headset and we ran checklists and did some basic troubleshooting. No clue. We were pressurized but still had red cabin pressure light at 10000 ft cabin altitude. But now we had a red left main gear unsafe light illuminated. Were we in the simulator? I slowed the aircraft and we told den we needed to hold to be sure our gear came down. I slowed to 20 KTS below gear extension speed and we lowered the gear handle. 3 green; down and locked. We reset the pressure for landing and the cabin came down; cabin pressure light went out and the cabin depressurized for landing. While we discussed declaring an emergency; we elected not to once everything appeared to clear up. Den tower did call out the emergency vehicles but they were not needed. Maintenance could not duplicate problem on ground and checked outflow and safety valves. We did a test flight the next day duplicating conditions (only not over the mountains) and we had the same exact thing (cabin pressure light) happen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: P180 FLT CREW HAS A CABIN PRESSURIZATION PROB; FOLLOWED BY A L MAIN GEAR UNSAFE LIGHT; RETURNED TO DEP ARPT.
Narrative: DEPARTED DEN; REPOSITIONING TO PICK UP PAX. WE HAD LEVELED AT FL240; COMPLETED CRUISE CHKS AND WERE GIVEN DIRECT ETL. WE HAD A RED CABIN PRESSURE ANNUNCIATOR COME ON. THIS COMES ON WHEN THE CABIN ALT REACHES 10000 FT. WE CONFIRMED THE BLEEDS WERE ON AND CHKED CABIN ALT. SURE ENOUGH IT WAS AT 10000 FT. WHAT WAS UNUSUAL WAS THE CABIN DIFFERENTIAL NEEDLE WAS AT THE SAME SPOT -- USUALLY THERE'S A SPLIT WHEN PRESSURIZED. EVERYTHING WAS OK ON CLBOUT. THE COPLT HAD SET 9000 FT FOR LNDG AT TEX BUT OBVIOUSLY THE CABIN WENT HIGHER. WE PUT THE MASKS ON AND TOLD ATC WE HAD A PRESSURIZATION PROB. WANTED LOWER AND TO RETURN TO DEN. I LET THE AUTOPLT FLY SO WE COULD TAKE CARE OF CHKLISTS. I INITIATED A STEEP (GREATER THAN 20 DEG) BANK AND CALLED FOR ABOUT A 3000 FPM DSCNT. THE AUTOPLT DIDN'T RESPOND SO I CHANGED SETTINGS. NOW; MIXED TRAINING CAUSED A PROB. I HAD BEEN TAUGHT TO GO TO SPEAKER WITH OXYGEN MASK BUT MY COPLT USED HER HEADSET. NOW I WAS TOTALLY OUT OF THE ATC LOOP AND COULDN'T HEAR HER (I'VE BEEN SINGLE PLT MOST OF MY CAREER). I HAD LOOKED OVER AT HER AND SHE STARTED WRITING NOTES TO COMMUNICATE. NEITHER OF US NOTICED THE AUTOPLT HAD DISCONNECTED TILL WE HEARD THE OVERSPD HORN. I IMMEDIATELY LOOKED AT THE INSTS (WE WERE 45 DEGS BANK; 25 DEGS NOSE DOWN AND 5 KTS OVER BARBER POLE. I CORRECTED AND SLOWED. RETURNED TO A NORMAL DSCNT AND LEVELED AT 16000 FT; DIRECT TO DEN. ONCE AGAIN ON AUTOPLT AND EVERYTHING (EXCEPT ANNUNCIATOR) NORMAL. I PUT ON THE HEADSET AND WE RAN CHKLISTS AND DID SOME BASIC TROUBLESHOOTING. NO CLUE. WE WERE PRESSURIZED BUT STILL HAD RED CABIN PRESSURE LIGHT AT 10000 FT CABIN ALT. BUT NOW WE HAD A RED L MAIN GEAR UNSAFE LIGHT ILLUMINATED. WERE WE IN THE SIMULATOR? I SLOWED THE ACFT AND WE TOLD DEN WE NEEDED TO HOLD TO BE SURE OUR GEAR CAME DOWN. I SLOWED TO 20 KTS BELOW GEAR EXTENSION SPD AND WE LOWERED THE GEAR HANDLE. 3 GREEN; DOWN AND LOCKED. WE RESET THE PRESSURE FOR LNDG AND THE CABIN CAME DOWN; CABIN PRESSURE LIGHT WENT OUT AND THE CABIN DEPRESSURIZED FOR LNDG. WHILE WE DISCUSSED DECLARING AN EMER; WE ELECTED NOT TO ONCE EVERYTHING APPEARED TO CLR UP. DEN TWR DID CALL OUT THE EMER VEHICLES BUT THEY WERE NOT NEEDED. MAINT COULD NOT DUPLICATE PROB ON GND AND CHKED OUTFLOW AND SAFETY VALVES. WE DID A TEST FLT THE NEXT DAY DUPLICATING CONDITIONS (ONLY NOT OVER THE MOUNTAINS) AND WE HAD THE SAME EXACT THING (CABIN PRESSURE LIGHT) HAPPEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.