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Attributes | |
ACN | 696492 |
Time | |
Date | 200605 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Turbulence |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 696492 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 696493 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Takeoff was to be performed using flaps 5 degrees near the runway limit weight for runway 17R sdf. All normal procedures were followed with the exception of the takeoff data FLIP card was set to 280000 pounds and the actual weight was 380000 pounds. It was the first officer's takeoff. At rotation; he noticed the airplane to be under-performing and stopped the rotation at 7.5 degrees anu. The airplane accelerated and lifted off and when a positive rate of climb was confirmed the PF climbed and accelerated on schedule with normal flap retraction. After some discussion with the crew; a conclusion was made that we had used the wrong weight card for the takeoff and could have possibly gotten a tail strike; though nothing was felt and no other signs were present. After notifying the company and talking to maintenance; it was decided that we should continue to destination since no signs of a strike were present and structural integrity was not in doubt. The flight concluded at destination where maintenance found no tail strike had occurred. It is paramount that the flight crews use all redundancies and triplechk each other on these performance items as well as all criteria pertaining to the operation of the flight. I also recommend when briefing the departure that the takeoff cards be out and used during the briefing as it is usually put away at the completion of the before start checklist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 FLT CREW DEPARTING SDF SELECTED AN IMPROPER AIRSPD CARD AND ROTATED AT TOO LOW AN AIRSPD.
Narrative: TKOF WAS TO BE PERFORMED USING FLAPS 5 DEGS NEAR THE RWY LIMIT WT FOR RWY 17R SDF. ALL NORMAL PROCS WERE FOLLOWED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TKOF DATA FLIP CARD WAS SET TO 280000 LBS AND THE ACTUAL WT WAS 380000 LBS. IT WAS THE FO'S TKOF. AT ROTATION; HE NOTICED THE AIRPLANE TO BE UNDER-PERFORMING AND STOPPED THE ROTATION AT 7.5 DEGS ANU. THE AIRPLANE ACCELERATED AND LIFTED OFF AND WHEN A POSITIVE RATE OF CLB WAS CONFIRMED THE PF CLBED AND ACCELERATED ON SCHEDULE WITH NORMAL FLAP RETRACTION. AFTER SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE CREW; A CONCLUSION WAS MADE THAT WE HAD USED THE WRONG WT CARD FOR THE TKOF AND COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GOTTEN A TAIL STRIKE; THOUGH NOTHING WAS FELT AND NO OTHER SIGNS WERE PRESENT. AFTER NOTIFYING THE COMPANY AND TALKING TO MAINT; IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEST SINCE NO SIGNS OF A STRIKE WERE PRESENT AND STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY WAS NOT IN DOUBT. THE FLT CONCLUDED AT DEST WHERE MAINT FOUND NO TAIL STRIKE HAD OCCURRED. IT IS PARAMOUNT THAT THE FLT CREWS USE ALL REDUNDANCIES AND TRIPLECHK EACH OTHER ON THESE PERFORMANCE ITEMS AS WELL AS ALL CRITERIA PERTAINING TO THE OP OF THE FLT. I ALSO RECOMMEND WHEN BRIEFING THE DEP THAT THE TKOF CARDS BE OUT AND USED DURING THE BRIEFING AS IT IS USUALLY PUT AWAY AT THE COMPLETION OF THE BEFORE START CHKLIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.