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Attributes | |
ACN | 699948 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 699948 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descending on eno.KORRY3 into lga. Descending in VNAV speed mode and 10000 ft set in MCP altitude window; airplane descending below 11000 ft hard altitude on legs page and on VNAV descent page 2.3 mi before brand to about 10400 ft before captain disconnected autoplt and returned to 11000 ft. Also went to level change but 10000 ft already acquired. ATC said nothing and korry was crossed at 10000 ft. VNAV speed descent is supposed to honor altitude restrs but it didn't for brand. I use both path and descent modes all the time and have never seen this happen. This was blatant and the airplane didn't try to level before brand at all. Software maybe. Again both pages legs 11000 ft at brand and VNAV descent page 11000 ft were magenta and we were on both pages just like we were supposed to be.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 HAS AN ALTDEV DURING DSCNT ON THE KORRY3 TO LGA.
Narrative: DSNDING ON ENO.KORRY3 INTO LGA. DSNDING IN VNAV SPD MODE AND 10000 FT SET IN MCP ALT WINDOW; AIRPLANE DSNDING BELOW 11000 FT HARD ALT ON LEGS PAGE AND ON VNAV DSCNT PAGE 2.3 MI BEFORE BRAND TO ABOUT 10400 FT BEFORE CAPT DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND RETURNED TO 11000 FT. ALSO WENT TO LEVEL CHANGE BUT 10000 FT ALREADY ACQUIRED. ATC SAID NOTHING AND KORRY WAS CROSSED AT 10000 FT. VNAV SPD DSCNT IS SUPPOSED TO HONOR ALT RESTRS BUT IT DIDN'T FOR BRAND. I USE BOTH PATH AND DSCNT MODES ALL THE TIME AND HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN. THIS WAS BLATANT AND THE AIRPLANE DIDN'T TRY TO LEVEL BEFORE BRAND AT ALL. SOFTWARE MAYBE. AGAIN BOTH PAGES LEGS 11000 FT AT BRAND AND VNAV DSCNT PAGE 11000 FT WERE MAGENTA AND WE WERE ON BOTH PAGES JUST LIKE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.