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Attributes | |
ACN | 700758 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : fqf.vortac |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 6200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ftg.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 700758 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Several attempts were made to contact ftg tower. No reply. Tried second transmitter at 6-8 DME. No response. Told student to initiate standard rate turn of 180 degrees to keep us out of class D airspace. At the time winds at ftg were announced on ATIS to be 190 degrees at 32 KTS. During the turn we were blown into class D airspace by about 1 NM. We exited the class D airspace and continued attempted contact with ftg tower (120.2). Finally at 7.1 DME contact was made with tower. We were cleared into class D airspace for touch-and-goes. After 3 touch-and-goes tower informed us of class D intrusion. We were told intrusion was 1.2 mi. Ftg tower personnel lack ATC responsiveness. Conflicts are occurring on regular basis with flight instructors from centennial airport (apa) as a result of what is often described as 'lack of response;' non-timely response; and unusual requests when traffic is very light. Such as 'report base;' this tower and its personnel are causing conflict both in the air and within airspace. Due to inexperience or lack of concern. The lax nature of ftg tower leaves pilots with yrs of working with ATC wondering; 'what is going on at ftg that causes experienced ATC-wise pilots asking; 'what?''
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT DESCRIBED UNAUTH ENTRY INTO FTG CLASS D AIRSPACE DURING ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT FTG TWR AND ADDED COMMENTS REGARDING FTG ATC SVC.
Narrative: SEVERAL ATTEMPTS WERE MADE TO CONTACT FTG TWR. NO REPLY. TRIED SECOND XMITTER AT 6-8 DME. NO RESPONSE. TOLD STUDENT TO INITIATE STANDARD RATE TURN OF 180 DEGS TO KEEP US OUT OF CLASS D AIRSPACE. AT THE TIME WINDS AT FTG WERE ANNOUNCED ON ATIS TO BE 190 DEGS AT 32 KTS. DURING THE TURN WE WERE BLOWN INTO CLASS D AIRSPACE BY ABOUT 1 NM. WE EXITED THE CLASS D AIRSPACE AND CONTINUED ATTEMPTED CONTACT WITH FTG TWR (120.2). FINALLY AT 7.1 DME CONTACT WAS MADE WITH TWR. WE WERE CLRED INTO CLASS D AIRSPACE FOR TOUCH-AND-GOES. AFTER 3 TOUCH-AND-GOES TWR INFORMED US OF CLASS D INTRUSION. WE WERE TOLD INTRUSION WAS 1.2 MI. FTG TWR PERSONNEL LACK ATC RESPONSIVENESS. CONFLICTS ARE OCCURRING ON REGULAR BASIS WITH FLT INSTRUCTORS FROM CENTENNIAL ARPT (APA) AS A RESULT OF WHAT IS OFTEN DESCRIBED AS 'LACK OF RESPONSE;' NON-TIMELY RESPONSE; AND UNUSUAL REQUESTS WHEN TFC IS VERY LIGHT. SUCH AS 'RPT BASE;' THIS TWR AND ITS PERSONNEL ARE CAUSING CONFLICT BOTH IN THE AIR AND WITHIN AIRSPACE. DUE TO INEXPERIENCE OR LACK OF CONCERN. THE LAX NATURE OF FTG TWR LEAVES PLTS WITH YRS OF WORKING WITH ATC WONDERING; 'WHAT IS GOING ON AT FTG THAT CAUSES EXPERIENCED ATC-WISE PLTS ASKING; 'WHAT?''
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.