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Attributes | |
ACN | 701247 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | McDonnell Douglas Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 701247 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 701160 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Aircraft Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Runway 35L; cleared for visual approach. Right about the time we should have started the turn to final; there was a TA at our 8 O'clock position; no factor; probably going to runway 34; but we did not see the traffic. Distraction by the TA; turn to final not initiated; and the autoplt did not capture. I don't know what autoplt mode the captain had selected; but I know the ILS frequency was dialed in; navigation mode VOR/ILS; VOR/localizer armed; and flight director off. Haven't flown the -300 in 5 yrs; so I'm a little rusty on some of the problems; but I remember the captain and first officer setting up the flight and navigation instruments for the approach and arming VOR/localizer. I saw the overshoot develop; but held my tongue for a second. We then got a 'descend' RA; looked out the front window and saw an md-xx ahead; on final to runway 35R. I looked left; saw our overshoot; and told the captain to turn to final. As he initiated the turn; we got a call from tower about the situation. We passed directly at 6 O'clock position to the md; probably at 1/2 mi and slightly below. We correct to final and continued the approach. Went around due to landing weight after all this; and landed on second attempt. Contributing factors: 1) company quick turn policy. Quick turn landing weight calculations and fuel concerns were initial distraction during cruise and descent. We got a lower altitude; flew with sb extended; lowered gear early; etc; to burn fuel. Still had to go around so they could quick turn the airplane. In the final analysis; the first officer had mixed up 2 lines on their notepad performance computer; mistaking landing runway 34R for runway 35R. I caught this after the go around as we were negotiating for a new landing runway; still based on the quick turn weight. Not a direct factor in the TA/RA; but the landing weight issue did use up a few extra brain cells. 2) unfamiliarity of crew with den also seemed to be a player. 3) distraction from the TA at a critical moment caused the initial overshoot. 4) CRM with jumpseater. I was the first to catch the overshoot and another distraction; and it was too late. Supplemental information from acn 701160: the traffic alert immediately became a TCAS descend and we complied. After we acquired the aircraft we corrected back to final runway 35L. Neither of these aircraft had been called to our attention by approach control. The 2 traffic alerts just as we were at the turn to intercept final; without knowing where the aircraft were going; was disconcerting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 FLT CREW HAS A HDG TRACK DEV DURING APCH TO DEN; RECEIVES A TCAS RA; EXECUTES A GAR AND RETURNS FOR LNDG.
Narrative: RWY 35L; CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH. RIGHT ABOUT THE TIME WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED THE TURN TO FINAL; THERE WAS A TA AT OUR 8 O'CLOCK POS; NO FACTOR; PROBABLY GOING TO RWY 34; BUT WE DID NOT SEE THE TFC. DISTR BY THE TA; TURN TO FINAL NOT INITIATED; AND THE AUTOPLT DID NOT CAPTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT AUTOPLT MODE THE CAPT HAD SELECTED; BUT I KNOW THE ILS FREQ WAS DIALED IN; NAV MODE VOR/ILS; VOR/LOC ARMED; AND FLT DIRECTOR OFF. HAVEN'T FLOWN THE -300 IN 5 YRS; SO I'M A LITTLE RUSTY ON SOME OF THE PROBS; BUT I REMEMBER THE CAPT AND FO SETTING UP THE FLT AND NAV INSTS FOR THE APCH AND ARMING VOR/LOC. I SAW THE OVERSHOOT DEVELOP; BUT HELD MY TONGUE FOR A SECOND. WE THEN GOT A 'DSND' RA; LOOKED OUT THE FRONT WINDOW AND SAW AN MD-XX AHEAD; ON FINAL TO RWY 35R. I LOOKED L; SAW OUR OVERSHOOT; AND TOLD THE CAPT TO TURN TO FINAL. AS HE INITIATED THE TURN; WE GOT A CALL FROM TWR ABOUT THE SITUATION. WE PASSED DIRECTLY AT 6 O'CLOCK POS TO THE MD; PROBABLY AT 1/2 MI AND SLIGHTLY BELOW. WE CORRECT TO FINAL AND CONTINUED THE APCH. WENT AROUND DUE TO LNDG WT AFTER ALL THIS; AND LANDED ON SECOND ATTEMPT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) COMPANY QUICK TURN POLICY. QUICK TURN LNDG WT CALCULATIONS AND FUEL CONCERNS WERE INITIAL DISTR DURING CRUISE AND DSCNT. WE GOT A LOWER ALT; FLEW WITH SB EXTENDED; LOWERED GEAR EARLY; ETC; TO BURN FUEL. STILL HAD TO GO AROUND SO THEY COULD QUICK TURN THE AIRPLANE. IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS; THE FO HAD MIXED UP 2 LINES ON THEIR NOTEPAD PERFORMANCE COMPUTER; MISTAKING LNDG RWY 34R FOR RWY 35R. I CAUGHT THIS AFTER THE GAR AS WE WERE NEGOTIATING FOR A NEW LNDG RWY; STILL BASED ON THE QUICK TURN WT. NOT A DIRECT FACTOR IN THE TA/RA; BUT THE LNDG WT ISSUE DID USE UP A FEW EXTRA BRAIN CELLS. 2) UNFAMILIARITY OF CREW WITH DEN ALSO SEEMED TO BE A PLAYER. 3) DISTR FROM THE TA AT A CRITICAL MOMENT CAUSED THE INITIAL OVERSHOOT. 4) CRM WITH JUMPSEATER. I WAS THE FIRST TO CATCH THE OVERSHOOT AND ANOTHER DISTR; AND IT WAS TOO LATE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 701160: THE TFC ALERT IMMEDIATELY BECAME A TCAS DSND AND WE COMPLIED. AFTER WE ACQUIRED THE ACFT WE CORRECTED BACK TO FINAL RWY 35L. NEITHER OF THESE ACFT HAD BEEN CALLED TO OUR ATTN BY APCH CTL. THE 2 TFC ALERTS JUST AS WE WERE AT THE TURN TO INTERCEPT FINAL; WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THE ACFT WERE GOING; WAS DISCONCERTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.