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A crj captain is concerned about the legality of flying unscheduled flight time that exceeds scheduled flight time based on the previous night's scheduled rest period.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 702231 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200606 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 702231 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I am filling out this report regarding a rest issue. I filled out a report immediately after the issue. However; I thought they took care of everything. I was later informed that it is a good idea to fill out a NASA report too. So that is what I am doing now. The issue is concerning rest that I received for a flight on jun/sat/06. When I started the day I had received the correct amount of rest. However; that day I had to do a gate return for fuel. When I got to arrival airport; I called scheduling because I was concerned that the gate return was going to take me over the allowed amount of flying for the rest I received. I was told that the gate return is not scheduled and per manual does not count for recalculating time for rest. In addition; I called the duty pilot who told me the same thing. I consulted 3 sources (ie; scheduling; duty pilot and fom) and all sources said it was legal. So I continued my flight. I later became concerned because I noticed a change later after the fact. According to the fom; I think I followed everything to the letter. However; the change to my schedule after the fact makes me concerned something was incorrect.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ CAPT IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF FLYING UNSCHEDULED FLT TIME THAT EXCEEDS SCHEDULED FLT TIME BASED ON THE PREVIOUS NIGHT'S SCHEDULED REST PERIOD.
Narrative: I AM FILLING OUT THIS RPT REGARDING A REST ISSUE. I FILLED OUT A RPT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ISSUE. HOWEVER; I THOUGHT THEY TOOK CARE OF EVERYTHING. I WAS LATER INFORMED THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO FILL OUT A NASA RPT TOO. SO THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING NOW. THE ISSUE IS CONCERNING REST THAT I RECEIVED FOR A FLT ON JUN/SAT/06. WHEN I STARTED THE DAY I HAD RECEIVED THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF REST. HOWEVER; THAT DAY I HAD TO DO A GATE RETURN FOR FUEL. WHEN I GOT TO ARR ARPT; I CALLED SCHEDULING BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED THAT THE GATE RETURN WAS GOING TO TAKE ME OVER THE ALLOWED AMOUNT OF FLYING FOR THE REST I RECEIVED. I WAS TOLD THAT THE GATE RETURN IS NOT SCHEDULED AND PER MANUAL DOES NOT COUNT FOR RECALCULATING TIME FOR REST. IN ADDITION; I CALLED THE DUTY PLT WHO TOLD ME THE SAME THING. I CONSULTED 3 SOURCES (IE; SCHEDULING; DUTY PLT AND FOM) AND ALL SOURCES SAID IT WAS LEGAL. SO I CONTINUED MY FLT. I LATER BECAME CONCERNED BECAUSE I NOTICED A CHANGE LATER AFTER THE FACT. ACCORDING TO THE FOM; I THINK I FOLLOWED EVERYTHING TO THE LETTER. HOWEVER; THE CHANGE TO MY SCHEDULE AFTER THE FACT MAKES ME CONCERNED SOMETHING WAS INCORRECT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.