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Attributes | |
ACN | 702367 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : eddf.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : eddf.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 702367 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
During rollout on runway 7L; I asked the first officer to keep an eye on the airbus on taxiway G. (He was holding short of runway 7L facing northeast towards the terminal.) tower issued instructions in german; and the airbus began to cross our runway. At this time; our speed was 90-100 KTS. Tower issued us instructions to 'slow down' and follow the airbus. During our debrief of the event; we all felt this would be an unacceptable practice in the states. Is this acceptable ATC procedure? If so; air crews need to be informed. Had there been any kind of braking problem on our part; or if something had happened to the airbus after entering the runway; this could have been a problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767-300 FLT CREW HAS ANOTHER ACFT CROSS THE RWY DURING THEIR LNDG ROLL AT EDDF.
Narrative: DURING ROLLOUT ON RWY 7L; I ASKED THE FO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE AIRBUS ON TXWY G. (HE WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 7L FACING NE TOWARDS THE TERMINAL.) TWR ISSUED INSTRUCTIONS IN GERMAN; AND THE AIRBUS BEGAN TO CROSS OUR RWY. AT THIS TIME; OUR SPD WAS 90-100 KTS. TWR ISSUED US INSTRUCTIONS TO 'SLOW DOWN' AND FOLLOW THE AIRBUS. DURING OUR DEBRIEF OF THE EVENT; WE ALL FELT THIS WOULD BE AN UNACCEPTABLE PRACTICE IN THE STATES. IS THIS ACCEPTABLE ATC PROC? IF SO; AIR CREWS NEED TO BE INFORMED. HAD THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF BRAKING PROB ON OUR PART; OR IF SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO THE AIRBUS AFTER ENTERING THE RWY; THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.