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ZTL controller expressed concern regarding scheduled aircraft operations prior to tower opening and aircraft utilizing ATC frequency for IFR clrncs at avl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 702457 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200607 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : avl.airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 24 controller time certified in position1 : 24 |
| ASRS Report | 702457 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : avl.tower |
Narrative:
ZTL assumes avl airspace from 2300 to 0630. Most of the airspace is below radar coverage and radio coverage is spotty. We use the same frequency to control clt arrs on the shine arrival. An arrival rush to clt starts at 0550 to 0600. Aircraft X calls for clearance from avl to clt at 0600. Issued edc of 0620. Due to number of aircraft inbound; I wind up holding for clt. In the middle of the push; aircraft asks about delay. I tell him I'm currently holding for clt. Pilot wants to argue. I tell him the longer I talk to him; the longer it takes to get out of holding. Pilot is obviously angry. So am I. Two more aircraft call for clearance off avl. FSS calls wrong sector for clearance off avl. Pilot calls on frequency and I tell him to call FSS so d-side can clear him off frequency. Pilot says FSS told him to call me. Situation is out of control. I finally get out of holding and clear aircraft X off avl -- one minute after edc of 0620. Pilot misses clearance and I have to restate it. Receive late handoff on aircraft Y inbound avl at 9000 ft. Aircraft X departing avl cleared to 9000 ft. No positive separation provided. Fortunately aircraft X departs runway 16 away from aircraft Y. Avl approach needs to open in time to handle these 3-4 scheduled flts. Pilots need to call FSS for clearance instead of tying up busy ATC frequency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZTL CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING SCHEDULED ACFT OPS PRIOR TO TWR OPENING AND ACFT UTILIZING ATC FREQ FOR IFR CLRNCS AT AVL.
Narrative: ZTL ASSUMES AVL AIRSPACE FROM 2300 TO 0630. MOST OF THE AIRSPACE IS BELOW RADAR COVERAGE AND RADIO COVERAGE IS SPOTTY. WE USE THE SAME FREQ TO CTL CLT ARRS ON THE SHINE ARR. AN ARR RUSH TO CLT STARTS AT 0550 TO 0600. ACFT X CALLS FOR CLRNC FROM AVL TO CLT AT 0600. ISSUED EDC OF 0620. DUE TO NUMBER OF ACFT INBOUND; I WIND UP HOLDING FOR CLT. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PUSH; ACFT ASKS ABOUT DELAY. I TELL HIM I'M CURRENTLY HOLDING FOR CLT. PLT WANTS TO ARGUE. I TELL HIM THE LONGER I TALK TO HIM; THE LONGER IT TAKES TO GET OUT OF HOLDING. PLT IS OBVIOUSLY ANGRY. SO AM I. TWO MORE ACFT CALL FOR CLRNC OFF AVL. FSS CALLS WRONG SECTOR FOR CLRNC OFF AVL. PLT CALLS ON FREQ AND I TELL HIM TO CALL FSS SO D-SIDE CAN CLR HIM OFF FREQ. PLT SAYS FSS TOLD HIM TO CALL ME. SITUATION IS OUT OF CONTROL. I FINALLY GET OUT OF HOLDING AND CLR ACFT X OFF AVL -- ONE MINUTE AFTER EDC OF 0620. PLT MISSES CLRNC AND I HAVE TO RESTATE IT. RECEIVE LATE HANDOFF ON ACFT Y INBOUND AVL AT 9000 FT. ACFT X DEPARTING AVL CLRED TO 9000 FT. NO POSITIVE SEPARATION PROVIDED. FORTUNATELY ACFT X DEPARTS RWY 16 AWAY FROM ACFT Y. AVL APCH NEEDS TO OPEN IN TIME TO HANDLE THESE 3-4 SCHEDULED FLTS. PLTS NEED TO CALL FSS FOR CLRNC INSTEAD OF TYING UP BUSY ATC FREQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.