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Attributes | |
ACN | 702614 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Socata (Aerospatiale) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 19 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8900 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 702614 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The flight's primary mission was a training/transition for the new owner of a tbm 850. As his aircraft has not yet been delivered; we were flying a tbm 700c2. The flight was made to teb for the owner to conduct business and gain experience in the tbm. Flight progressed smoothly from start until approximately 20 NM west teb. Based upon ATIS; we expected and briefed for the ILS runway 06 approach. A late ATIS change required the ILS runway 19 approach to be quickly changed on the EFIS and GNS 530. To compound our problems; we accepted a high approach speed (220 KTS) and a tight turn to final. The GNS 530 was not selected to the vloc mode; thereby it was not sending localizer/GS information to the ehsi and eadi. Furthermore; in the tbm it is possible to have a localizer mode selected on the ehsi and a GPS mode selected by the GNS 530; thereby not supplying the ehsi with localizer signal information. Our intercept of the localizer was a close-in overshoot; followed by an s-turn to establish; and a full down glideslope indication. Autoplt was then disconnected and localizer selected on the GNS 530; reestablishing proper localizer and glideslope indications. The resulting high fast approach created a long landing requiring hard reverse to stop. Contributing factors: 1) instructional flight. 2) fast approach (should have accepted vectors with the delay). 3) last minute IAP change (should have requested more time to change). Landing was conducted by tbm experienced CFI; other wise a go around would have been more prudent. Landing was 'routine;' but long. In short; I allowed myself to be too fast; too close; too rushed; and too unprepared for the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ISSUES WITH ADVANCED NAVIGATION SYSTEM CONTRIBUTES TO CHKOUT PLT ON TBM7 EXPERIENCING UNSTABLE APCH AND LONG LNDG.
Narrative: THE FLT'S PRIMARY MISSION WAS A TRAINING/TRANSITION FOR THE NEW OWNER OF A TBM 850. AS HIS ACFT HAS NOT YET BEEN DELIVERED; WE WERE FLYING A TBM 700C2. THE FLT WAS MADE TO TEB FOR THE OWNER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND GAIN EXPERIENCE IN THE TBM. FLT PROGRESSED SMOOTHLY FROM START UNTIL APPROX 20 NM W TEB. BASED UPON ATIS; WE EXPECTED AND BRIEFED FOR THE ILS RWY 06 APCH. A LATE ATIS CHANGE REQUIRED THE ILS RWY 19 APCH TO BE QUICKLY CHANGED ON THE EFIS AND GNS 530. TO COMPOUND OUR PROBS; WE ACCEPTED A HIGH APCH SPD (220 KTS) AND A TIGHT TURN TO FINAL. THE GNS 530 WAS NOT SELECTED TO THE VLOC MODE; THEREBY IT WAS NOT SENDING LOC/GS INFO TO THE EHSI AND EADI. FURTHERMORE; IN THE TBM IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A LOC MODE SELECTED ON THE EHSI AND A GPS MODE SELECTED BY THE GNS 530; THEREBY NOT SUPPLYING THE EHSI WITH LOC SIGNAL INFO. OUR INTERCEPT OF THE LOC WAS A CLOSE-IN OVERSHOOT; FOLLOWED BY AN S-TURN TO ESTABLISH; AND A FULL DOWN GLIDESLOPE INDICATION. AUTOPLT WAS THEN DISCONNECTED AND LOC SELECTED ON THE GNS 530; REESTABLISHING PROPER LOC AND GLIDESLOPE INDICATIONS. THE RESULTING HIGH FAST APCH CREATED A LONG LNDG REQUIRING HARD REVERSE TO STOP. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) INSTRUCTIONAL FLT. 2) FAST APCH (SHOULD HAVE ACCEPTED VECTORS WITH THE DELAY). 3) LAST MINUTE IAP CHANGE (SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED MORE TIME TO CHANGE). LNDG WAS CONDUCTED BY TBM EXPERIENCED CFI; OTHER WISE A GO AROUND WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PRUDENT. LNDG WAS 'ROUTINE;' BUT LONG. IN SHORT; I ALLOWED MYSELF TO BE TOO FAST; TOO CLOSE; TOO RUSHED; AND TOO UNPREPARED FOR THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.