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Attributes | |
ACN | 702754 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : omn.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 1350 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 702754 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Navigational Facility |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Situations | |
Navigational Aid | OMN.VORTAC |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR cross country to melbourne; fl. I was 15 mins away from the end of a 2 hour flight above a broken layer. I had previously been in contact with ZJX; then mco approach. All radio contacts consisted of nothing more than an altimeter setting; and later with a frequency change. According to my VOR indications; I was centered on V3 (161 degree radial from omn) and steering 165 degrees magnetic. Mco approach directed that I contact daytona approach and said good-day. After rechking my altitude and position; I changed frequency and called daytona approach. The controller first said; 'descend and maintain 4000 ft.' before I responded with confirmation; the controller asked for my present heading. I replied 165 degrees; and he responded; 'turn right to heading of 180 degrees.' at about this time I looked down through a broken layer; and saw the shuttle landing facility off my left wing; and estimated that I had strayed into R2934. With alarm; I reconfirmed that my instruments showed me on course. It then suddenly occurred to me that on a previous flight in the same area; in a different aircraft; I was also called by approach; and asked to correct my heading to the west. On that previous occasion; I remember telling the controller that my VOR showed a centered needle even though he saw me 4 mi off course. At that previous time; that controller said; 'yeah; there is a problem right there in that area; right about at the change-over point.' callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated that prior to this flight he checked the accuracy of the vors. #1 VOR was accurate while #2 VOR was 5 degrees off at takeoff and so he was not using that radio. He experienced a similar event in may flying a different aircraft but did not stray completely into the restr airspace. The controller while talking with him about this incursion sounded conciliatory while he explained that ATC had a problem with that airway in the vicinity of malet. He has heard nothing from the FAA about this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 PLT ON V3 CTRLINE RPTS ENTERING R2934 (SHUTTLE LNDG SITE) AND ATC STATING A KNOWN PROB WITH THE AIRWAY.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR XCOUNTRY TO MELBOURNE; FL. I WAS 15 MINS AWAY FROM THE END OF A 2 HR FLT ABOVE A BROKEN LAYER. I HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ZJX; THEN MCO APCH. ALL RADIO CONTACTS CONSISTED OF NOTHING MORE THAN AN ALTIMETER SETTING; AND LATER WITH A FREQ CHANGE. ACCORDING TO MY VOR INDICATIONS; I WAS CTRED ON V3 (161 DEG RADIAL FROM OMN) AND STEERING 165 DEGS MAGNETIC. MCO APCH DIRECTED THAT I CONTACT DAYTONA APCH AND SAID GOOD-DAY. AFTER RECHKING MY ALT AND POS; I CHANGED FREQ AND CALLED DAYTONA APCH. THE CTLR FIRST SAID; 'DSND AND MAINTAIN 4000 FT.' BEFORE I RESPONDED WITH CONFIRMATION; THE CTLR ASKED FOR MY PRESENT HDG. I REPLIED 165 DEGS; AND HE RESPONDED; 'TURN R TO HDG OF 180 DEGS.' AT ABOUT THIS TIME I LOOKED DOWN THROUGH A BROKEN LAYER; AND SAW THE SHUTTLE LNDG FACILITY OFF MY L WING; AND ESTIMATED THAT I HAD STRAYED INTO R2934. WITH ALARM; I RECONFIRMED THAT MY INSTS SHOWED ME ON COURSE. IT THEN SUDDENLY OCCURRED TO ME THAT ON A PREVIOUS FLT IN THE SAME AREA; IN A DIFFERENT ACFT; I WAS ALSO CALLED BY APCH; AND ASKED TO CORRECT MY HDG TO THE W. ON THAT PREVIOUS OCCASION; I REMEMBER TELLING THE CTLR THAT MY VOR SHOWED A CTRED NEEDLE EVEN THOUGH HE SAW ME 4 MI OFF COURSE. AT THAT PREVIOUS TIME; THAT CTLR SAID; 'YEAH; THERE IS A PROB RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA; RIGHT ABOUT AT THE CHANGE-OVER POINT.' CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THAT PRIOR TO THIS FLT HE CHKED THE ACCURACY OF THE VORS. #1 VOR WAS ACCURATE WHILE #2 VOR WAS 5 DEGS OFF AT TKOF AND SO HE WAS NOT USING THAT RADIO. HE EXPERIENCED A SIMILAR EVENT IN MAY FLYING A DIFFERENT ACFT BUT DID NOT STRAY COMPLETELY INTO THE RESTR AIRSPACE. THE CTLR WHILE TALKING WITH HIM ABOUT THIS INCURSION SOUNDED CONCILIATORY WHILE HE EXPLAINED THAT ATC HAD A PROB WITH THAT AIRWAY IN THE VICINITY OF MALET. HE HAS HEARD NOTHING FROM THE FAA ABOUT THIS EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.