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Attributes | |
ACN | 704652 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zdc.artcc |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 13000 agl bound upper : 13700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : korry 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10600 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 704652 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was the PNF and aircraft was given holds en route to lga. We were told to slow to 250 KTS joining the korry 3 arrival for lga. Finally ATC gave us a late holding instruction to cross holey at 13000 ft; 210 KTS and hold as published. I repeated the instruction and the captain (PF) repeated; but I think he must have missed the part about crossing the VOR at 13000 ft; because ATC asked us to confirm our altitude of 13700 ft and I did; then a few seconds later; ATC asked us to confirm we were at 13000 ft and at the time we were; so I advised ATC we were at 13000 ft. I got distraction by other items in the cockpit; so I was not fully monitoring the PF's crossing restr. After we deviated from the clearance; the captain said he never heard ATC tell us to cross the fix at 13000 ft. It would have been difficult to make regardless since ATC wanted us to slow and descend at the same time and I believe we were only 3 NM from the fix when given the clearance. I should have told ATC unable. Contributing factors to this deviation were fatigue. The captain said he only got 5 hours sleep the night before and I received about 3. Crew scheduling woke me up at 3:30 am that morning on my day off and asked me to cover a trip due to someone sick. The report time was 6:30 am. I could not return to sleep after they called and I did not want to turn down the trip since I need a minimum amount of flight time by the end of the month to make up for 50% pay cut. I think fatigue played a factor for both of us and next time I won't fly without feeling fully rested; so I can adequately monitor the PF. From what I saw; there were no conflicts with any other aircraft in the area and TCAS never advised of any conflicts. We were in a holding pattern though; but entering it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW HAS AN ALTDEV HOLDING ON STAR TO LGA.
Narrative: I WAS THE PNF AND ACFT WAS GIVEN HOLDS ENRTE TO LGA. WE WERE TOLD TO SLOW TO 250 KTS JOINING THE KORRY 3 ARR FOR LGA. FINALLY ATC GAVE US A LATE HOLDING INSTRUCTION TO CROSS HOLEY AT 13000 FT; 210 KTS AND HOLD AS PUBLISHED. I REPEATED THE INSTRUCTION AND THE CAPT (PF) REPEATED; BUT I THINK HE MUST HAVE MISSED THE PART ABOUT XING THE VOR AT 13000 FT; BECAUSE ATC ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR ALT OF 13700 FT AND I DID; THEN A FEW SECONDS LATER; ATC ASKED US TO CONFIRM WE WERE AT 13000 FT AND AT THE TIME WE WERE; SO I ADVISED ATC WE WERE AT 13000 FT. I GOT DISTR BY OTHER ITEMS IN THE COCKPIT; SO I WAS NOT FULLY MONITORING THE PF'S XING RESTR. AFTER WE DEVIATED FROM THE CLRNC; THE CAPT SAID HE NEVER HEARD ATC TELL US TO CROSS THE FIX AT 13000 FT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO MAKE REGARDLESS SINCE ATC WANTED US TO SLOW AND DSND AT THE SAME TIME AND I BELIEVE WE WERE ONLY 3 NM FROM THE FIX WHEN GIVEN THE CLRNC. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD ATC UNABLE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS DEV WERE FATIGUE. THE CAPT SAID HE ONLY GOT 5 HRS SLEEP THE NIGHT BEFORE AND I RECEIVED ABOUT 3. CREW SCHEDULING WOKE ME UP AT 3:30 AM THAT MORNING ON MY DAY OFF AND ASKED ME TO COVER A TRIP DUE TO SOMEONE SICK. THE RPT TIME WAS 6:30 AM. I COULD NOT RETURN TO SLEEP AFTER THEY CALLED AND I DID NOT WANT TO TURN DOWN THE TRIP SINCE I NEED A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF FLT TIME BY THE END OF THE MONTH TO MAKE UP FOR 50% PAY CUT. I THINK FATIGUE PLAYED A FACTOR FOR BOTH OF US AND NEXT TIME I WON'T FLY WITHOUT FEELING FULLY RESTED; SO I CAN ADEQUATELY MONITOR THE PF. FROM WHAT I SAW; THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS WITH ANY OTHER ACFT IN THE AREA AND TCAS NEVER ADVISED OF ANY CONFLICTS. WE WERE IN A HOLDING PATTERN THOUGH; BUT ENTERING IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.