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Attributes | |
ACN | 709888 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : pillo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Route In Use | arrival star : baret 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 709888 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 709889 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On baret 4 arrival into san; we descended to 16000 ft MSL. Our altimeter was set at san altimeter of 28.85. King air traffic was reported at 15000 ft MSL. Our TCAS showed him at 200 ft below us. Ultimately; an RA occurred directing us to climb (climbed to approximately 16500 ft MSL). The traffic looked closer than 500 ft below. Found out the king air was using the el centro altimeter of 29.63. With the altimeters that far apart; the altitudes flown were much closer than 500 ft. Advised ATC we were executing an RA maneuver. After we visually cleared the traffic; we descended back to 16000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAS CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH KING AIR ON BARET 4 ARR TO SAN.
Narrative: ON BARET 4 ARR INTO SAN; WE DSNDED TO 16000 FT MSL. OUR ALTIMETER WAS SET AT SAN ALTIMETER OF 28.85. KING AIR TFC WAS RPTED AT 15000 FT MSL. OUR TCAS SHOWED HIM AT 200 FT BELOW US. ULTIMATELY; AN RA OCCURRED DIRECTING US TO CLB (CLBED TO APPROX 16500 FT MSL). THE TFC LOOKED CLOSER THAN 500 FT BELOW. FOUND OUT THE KING AIR WAS USING THE EL CENTRO ALTIMETER OF 29.63. WITH THE ALTIMETERS THAT FAR APART; THE ALTS FLOWN WERE MUCH CLOSER THAN 500 FT. ADVISED ATC WE WERE EXECUTING AN RA MANEUVER. AFTER WE VISUALLY CLRED THE TFC; WE DSNDED BACK TO 16000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.