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Attributes | |
ACN | 712553 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : vinse |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 34000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 2375 |
ASRS Report | 712553 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
While enroute at cruise; ATC cleared us to a fix that was not on our current route; then direct air (which was along our filed route). The captain read back the fix name phonetically as 'binns' and typed it in the FMC. It appeared in front of us; with a 10 degree turn to the left; and about 40 miles away. After checking with me; he executed the waypoint. After a couple minutes; ATC asked us for our heading. The captain said we are direct binns; to which ATC replied; 'not binns; you're supposed to go direct vinse.' we had him spell it twice; then typed vinse in the FMC. It turns out that the two fixes are about 30 miles apart. We corrected our heading about 30 degrees to the right and proceeded direct. The fixes are very similar phonetically and sound nearly identical when spoken. We did read back the fix originally; but I do remember some uncertainty if 'binns' was correct. But when ATC did not correct us immediately; and the fix appeared to be along the right path; everything seemed ok. ATC did not act overly concerned and we do not know of any traffic conflict. However; further query of the phonetic spelling of vinse would have prevented this error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC EXPERIENCED A TRACK ERROR NOTING THAT TWO SIMILAR SOUNDING WAYPOINTS; VINSE AND BINNS; ARE WITHIN 30 NM OF EACH OTHER AND MAY BE EASILY CONFUSED.
Narrative: WHILE ENROUTE AT CRUISE; ATC CLEARED US TO A FIX THAT WAS NOT ON OUR CURRENT ROUTE; THEN DIRECT AIR (WHICH WAS ALONG OUR FILED ROUTE). THE CAPTAIN READ BACK THE FIX NAME PHONETICALLY AS 'BINNS' AND TYPED IT IN THE FMC. IT APPEARED IN FRONT OF US; WITH A 10 DEGREE TURN TO THE LEFT; AND ABOUT 40 MILES AWAY. AFTER CHECKING WITH ME; HE EXECUTED THE WAYPOINT. AFTER A COUPLE MINUTES; ATC ASKED US FOR OUR HEADING. THE CAPTAIN SAID WE ARE DIRECT BINNS; TO WHICH ATC REPLIED; 'NOT BINNS; YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO DIRECT VINSE.' WE HAD HIM SPELL IT TWICE; THEN TYPED VINSE IN THE FMC. IT TURNS OUT THAT THE TWO FIXES ARE ABOUT 30 MILES APART. WE CORRECTED OUR HEADING ABOUT 30 DEGREES TO THE RIGHT AND PROCEEDED DIRECT. THE FIXES ARE VERY SIMILAR PHONETICALLY AND SOUND NEARLY IDENTICAL WHEN SPOKEN. WE DID READ BACK THE FIX ORIGINALLY; BUT I DO REMEMBER SOME UNCERTAINTY IF 'BINNS' WAS CORRECT. BUT WHEN ATC DID NOT CORRECT US IMMEDIATELY; AND THE FIX APPEARED TO BE ALONG THE RIGHT PATH; EVERYTHING SEEMED OK. ATC DID NOT ACT OVERLY CONCERNED AND WE DO NOT KNOW OF ANY TRAFFIC CONFLICT. HOWEVER; FURTHER QUERY OF THE PHONETIC SPELLING OF VINSE WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.