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Attributes | |
ACN | 714123 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : f45.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 35 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 714123 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Event occurred at F45 (north county general aviation airport). I was giving instruction to a student pilot with approximately 6 hours total time; all dual. We were making a normal approach to landing on runway 13. We had broadcast on CTAF while on crosswind; downwind; base and final. As we were approximately 35 ft over the approach end of the runway; a small experimental took off from runway 26R. Had both aircraft not maneuvered to avoid; there would have been a collision. After landing; the pilot of the experimental aircraft approached me on the ramp. He was very apologetic and aware of his mistake. He stated that he did not have a radio in his airplane and he thought he had looked; but obviously he had missed seeing us. He was adamant that he would not let this mistake happen again. Contributing factors: 1) the sun was very bright in the eyes of the pilots in the C172; making it difficult to see the experimental aircraft. 2) the experimental aircraft did not have an operating 2-WAY radio; and did not clear all sectors prior to takeoff. 3) F45 is a non-twred field despite a heavy training and corporate use traffic load.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 EXPERIENCED AN NMAC WITH AN EXPERIMENTAL AT UNCTLED FIELD F45.
Narrative: EVENT OCCURRED AT F45 (NORTH COUNTY GENERAL AVIATION ARPT). I WAS GIVING INSTRUCTION TO A STUDENT PLT WITH APPROX 6 HRS TOTAL TIME; ALL DUAL. WE WERE MAKING A NORMAL APCH TO LNDG ON RWY 13. WE HAD BROADCAST ON CTAF WHILE ON XWIND; DOWNWIND; BASE AND FINAL. AS WE WERE APPROX 35 FT OVER THE APCH END OF THE RWY; A SMALL EXPERIMENTAL TOOK OFF FROM RWY 26R. HAD BOTH ACFT NOT MANEUVERED TO AVOID; THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION. AFTER LNDG; THE PLT OF THE EXPERIMENTAL ACFT APPROACHED ME ON THE RAMP. HE WAS VERY APOLOGETIC AND AWARE OF HIS MISTAKE. HE STATED THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A RADIO IN HIS AIRPLANE AND HE THOUGHT HE HAD LOOKED; BUT OBVIOUSLY HE HAD MISSED SEEING US. HE WAS ADAMANT THAT HE WOULD NOT LET THIS MISTAKE HAPPEN AGAIN. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) THE SUN WAS VERY BRIGHT IN THE EYES OF THE PLTS IN THE C172; MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO SEE THE EXPERIMENTAL ACFT. 2) THE EXPERIMENTAL ACFT DID NOT HAVE AN OPERATING 2-WAY RADIO; AND DID NOT CLR ALL SECTORS PRIOR TO TAKEOFF. 3) F45 IS A NON-TWRED FIELD DESPITE A HVY TRAINING AND CORPORATE USE TFC LOAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.