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Attributes | |
ACN | 715045 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : det.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : fat.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 154 flight time total : 5822 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 715045 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My copilot was taxiing to runway 33. We had just stopped to pick up a dog for our passenger; having landed on runway 33 and taxied to ramp. On taxi out; we both had our efb's (11 1/2 inch by 8 inch by 2 inch; approximately 4 pounds) on the det airport diagram. I had reminded him of the route. It's simple but like most airports not well marked. He became disoriented when crossing runway 25/7 so I told him to stop; he did so on the runway! I told him to please continue; never stop on a runway. He's a bit inexperienced; charges without thinking; and this was our first trip (2ND day) together. I could not read my efb for the location so reached for it. He started to taxi and before I could get back in the loop had turned the corner and passed the hold line for runway 33. I asked why he continued and he said he didn't see a hold line! Tower called and said we passed the hold line but thankfully no traffic! Our efb's are large; heavy and difficult to read in certain light. When you use them you become a computer operator and it takes most of your attention; especially if you must hold them (they are not mounted). Great boxes for information but very impractical in a small cpr cockpit. Remedy is more monitoring of inexperienced coplts; hard copy of difficult airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF A P180 EXPERIENCE RWY INCURSION WHILE TAXIING. RPTR CITES INEXPERIENCED COPLT AND THE EFB'S AS A DISTR.
Narrative: MY COPLT WAS TAXIING TO RWY 33. WE HAD JUST STOPPED TO PICK UP A DOG FOR OUR PAX; HAVING LANDED ON RWY 33 AND TAXIED TO RAMP. ON TAXI OUT; WE BOTH HAD OUR EFB'S (11 1/2 INCH BY 8 INCH BY 2 INCH; APPROX 4 LBS) ON THE DET ARPT DIAGRAM. I HAD REMINDED HIM OF THE RTE. IT'S SIMPLE BUT LIKE MOST ARPTS NOT WELL MARKED. HE BECAME DISORIENTED WHEN XING RWY 25/7 SO I TOLD HIM TO STOP; HE DID SO ON THE RWY! I TOLD HIM TO PLEASE CONTINUE; NEVER STOP ON A RWY. HE'S A BIT INEXPERIENCED; CHARGES WITHOUT THINKING; AND THIS WAS OUR FIRST TRIP (2ND DAY) TOGETHER. I COULD NOT READ MY EFB FOR THE LOCATION SO REACHED FOR IT. HE STARTED TO TAXI AND BEFORE I COULD GET BACK IN THE LOOP HAD TURNED THE CORNER AND PASSED THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 33. I ASKED WHY HE CONTINUED AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE A HOLD LINE! TWR CALLED AND SAID WE PASSED THE HOLD LINE BUT THANKFULLY NO TFC! OUR EFB'S ARE LARGE; HVY AND DIFFICULT TO READ IN CERTAIN LIGHT. WHEN YOU USE THEM YOU BECOME A COMPUTER OPERATOR AND IT TAKES MOST OF YOUR ATTN; ESPECIALLY IF YOU MUST HOLD THEM (THEY ARE NOT MOUNTED). GREAT BOXES FOR INFO BUT VERY IMPRACTICAL IN A SMALL CPR COCKPIT. REMEDY IS MORE MONITORING OF INEXPERIENCED COPLTS; HARD COPY OF DIFFICULT ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.