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Attributes | |
ACN | 716448 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : ewr7 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 716448 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 716483 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On what was supposed to be the last leg of the day; during our arrival at ewr we received over ACARS instructions to fly an additional leg on another aircraft from ewr to ZZZ in order to get that aircraft to the maintenance hangar. Getting the clearance on the clearance frequency was a bit of a problem because the controller spoke faster than we were able to keep up; with the clearance containing a number of radial intercepts that we had not been led to expect from the flight plan we had in hand. We had to have the route clarified; but the altitude portion seemed pretty clear; climb and maintain 5000 ft is what we heard; wrote down and read back. This led us to believe that the 2500 ft restr on the newark seven departure was rescinded. On climb out upon contacting departure control; the 2500 ft restr was mentioned by the controller as we were climbing with no possible way for us to comply at that point. The controller then reiterated the clearance up to 5000 ft; and we made our way to jfk without further event. We weren't given any phone numbers to call; but we are concerned about the perception by the controller that we may have missed the 2500 ft restr on the departure. We do appreciate the continued cool; calm and professional service that he continued to give us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW CLBS THROUGH SID ALT ON EWR 7 DEP.
Narrative: ON WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST LEG OF THE DAY; DURING OUR ARR AT EWR WE RECEIVED OVER ACARS INSTRUCTIONS TO FLY AN ADDITIONAL LEG ON ANOTHER ACFT FROM EWR TO ZZZ IN ORDER TO GET THAT ACFT TO THE MAINT HANGAR. GETTING THE CLRNC ON THE CLRNC FREQ WAS A BIT OF A PROB BECAUSE THE CTLR SPOKE FASTER THAN WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP UP; WITH THE CLRNC CONTAINING A NUMBER OF RADIAL INTERCEPTS THAT WE HAD NOT BEEN LED TO EXPECT FROM THE FLT PLAN WE HAD IN HAND. WE HAD TO HAVE THE RTE CLARIFIED; BUT THE ALT PORTION SEEMED PRETTY CLR; CLB AND MAINTAIN 5000 FT IS WHAT WE HEARD; WROTE DOWN AND READ BACK. THIS LED US TO BELIEVE THAT THE 2500 FT RESTR ON THE NEWARK SEVEN DEP WAS RESCINDED. ON CLBOUT UPON CONTACTING DEP CTL; THE 2500 FT RESTR WAS MENTIONED BY THE CTLR AS WE WERE CLBING WITH NO POSSIBLE WAY FOR US TO COMPLY AT THAT POINT. THE CTLR THEN REITERATED THE CLRNC UP TO 5000 FT; AND WE MADE OUR WAY TO JFK WITHOUT FURTHER EVENT. WE WEREN'T GIVEN ANY PHONE NUMBERS TO CALL; BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCEPTION BY THE CTLR THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED THE 2500 FT RESTR ON THE DEP. WE DO APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED COOL; CALM AND PROFESSIONAL SVC THAT HE CONTINUED TO GIVE US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.