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Attributes | |
ACN | 717286 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : krain |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : civet5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 717286 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On civet arrival; we were told that all arrs were changing from runway 25R to runway 24R. ATC thought that we had already been told. Neither pilot believed that we had been so advised. There had been no distrs in the cockpit. The transition to runway 24R was uneventful. On a related note; with the closure of runway 25L; ATC is issuing many late runway changes. This is requiring heads down reprogramming at low altitudes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD83 FLT CREW HAS TRACK AND HDG DEV DURING CIVET ARR TO LAX.
Narrative: ON CIVET ARR; WE WERE TOLD THAT ALL ARRS WERE CHANGING FROM RWY 25R TO RWY 24R. ATC THOUGHT THAT WE HAD ALREADY BEEN TOLD. NEITHER PLT BELIEVED THAT WE HAD BEEN SO ADVISED. THERE HAD BEEN NO DISTRS IN THE COCKPIT. THE TRANSITION TO RWY 24R WAS UNEVENTFUL. ON A RELATED NOTE; WITH THE CLOSURE OF RWY 25L; ATC IS ISSUING MANY LATE RWY CHANGES. THIS IS REQUIRING HEADS DOWN REPROGRAMMING AT LOW ALTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.