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Attributes | |
ACN | 717709 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sct.tracon |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Citation I |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 717709 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Immediately after takeoff; we (1) lost communication at the copilot station and (2) observed an irregular indication on the cabin pressurization gauge. We were handed off to socal approach; but became distraction with diagnosis; leading to missed calls and headings. We explained the miscom and pressurization issues to the first controller; who acknowledged; but then handed us off to a second controller. The second controller began berating us almost immediately; interrupting our attempts to catch up with distracting and unhelpful comments and questions (are you instrument rated? Are you a training flight?) and berating the flight crew. He continued by addressing other aircraft on the frequency with comments like 'sorry I am distraction with a high-performance that doesn't know what he's doing' and the like. We unfortunately permitted this to create some confusion in the cockpit. We were severe clear and VMC and should have exercised command authority/authorized by either canceling IFR or asking for a vector to permit us to sort the issues out without distraction. To prevent a reoccurrence; we have instituted new company cockpit procedures and remedial training.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CITATION CE500 FLT CREW HAS TRACK-HDG DEV DURING DEP FROM CNO.
Narrative: IMMEDIATELY AFTER TKOF; WE (1) LOST COM AT THE COPLT STATION AND (2) OBSERVED AN IRREGULAR INDICATION ON THE CABIN PRESSURIZATION GAUGE. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO SOCAL APCH; BUT BECAME DISTR WITH DIAGNOSIS; LEADING TO MISSED CALLS AND HDGS. WE EXPLAINED THE MISCOM AND PRESSURIZATION ISSUES TO THE FIRST CTLR; WHO ACKNOWLEDGED; BUT THEN HANDED US OFF TO A SECOND CTLR. THE SECOND CTLR BEGAN BERATING US ALMOST IMMEDIATELY; INTERRUPTING OUR ATTEMPTS TO CATCH UP WITH DISTRACTING AND UNHELPFUL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS (ARE YOU INST RATED? ARE YOU A TRAINING FLT?) AND BERATING THE FLT CREW. HE CONTINUED BY ADDRESSING OTHER ACFT ON THE FREQ WITH COMMENTS LIKE 'SORRY I AM DISTR WITH A HIGH-PERFORMANCE THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING' AND THE LIKE. WE UNFORTUNATELY PERMITTED THIS TO CREATE SOME CONFUSION IN THE COCKPIT. WE WERE SEVERE CLR AND VMC AND SHOULD HAVE EXERCISED COMMAND AUTH BY EITHER CANCELING IFR OR ASKING FOR A VECTOR TO PERMIT US TO SORT THE ISSUES OUT WITHOUT DISTR. TO PREVENT A REOCCURRENCE; WE HAVE INSTITUTED NEW COMPANY COCKPIT PROCS AND REMEDIAL TRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.