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MD80 flight crew is unable to determine the meaning of the comment 'not applicable' on the mmsd airport page regarding night takeoffs on runway 34.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 719355 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200612 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmsd.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Weather Elements | Windshear |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| ASRS Report | 719355 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Situations | |
| Chart | airport : mmsd.airport |
Narrative:
Please see mmsd's 13-1; takeoff and departure section; runway 34 at night. It says 'not applicable.' what does that mean? The situation follows: northwest winds at about 12 KTS. Few clouds at 3000 ft. Visibility 10 SM. No known limitation on the use of runway 34. Our xoral 1 clearance follows the engine failure procedure for 17 miles. The captain; dispatcher and I agreed that taking off from runway 34 would be the most safe and prudent course of action. Any clarification would be appreciated.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter advised that he had had no response from his company regarding the meaning or intent of the phrase in question. Reporter stated that the flight crew was unable to determine the meaning of the language despite a thorough review of the supporting documentation from the supplier.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW IS UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE MEANING OF THE COMMENT 'NOT APPLICABLE' ON THE MMSD ARPT PAGE REGARDING NIGHT TKOFS ON RWY 34.
Narrative: PLEASE SEE MMSD'S 13-1; TKOF AND DEP SECTION; RWY 34 AT NIGHT. IT SAYS 'NOT APPLICABLE.' WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE SITUATION FOLLOWS: NW WINDS AT ABOUT 12 KTS. FEW CLOUDS AT 3000 FT. VIS 10 SM. NO KNOWN LIMITATION ON THE USE OF RWY 34. OUR XORAL 1 CLRNC FOLLOWS THE ENG FAILURE PROC FOR 17 MILES. THE CAPT; DISPATCHER AND I AGREED THAT TAKING OFF FROM RWY 34 WOULD BE THE MOST SAFE AND PRUDENT COURSE OF ACTION. ANY CLARIFICATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR ADVISED THAT HE HAD HAD NO RESPONSE FROM HIS COMPANY REGARDING THE MEANING OR INTENT OF THE PHRASE IN QUESTION. RPTR STATED THAT THE FLT CREW WAS UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE MEANING OF THE LANGUAGE DESPITE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FROM THE SUPPLIER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.