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Attributes | |
ACN | 721368 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gjt.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Snow Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6100 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 721368 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : itt gauge other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
#1 itt exceeded limits on start. Cause was no N1 initially; on start; most likely due fan frozen in place from melted snow. Light snow on landing that stopped soon after shutdown. 2 hours later; water on wings was ice and aircraft was being taxied to deice area. #2 engine start was normal. #1 had no N1 after throttle moved to idle (with normal fuel flow and oil pressure). Prior to moving throttle to cut off; fan came unstuck/unfrozen and engine started. Itt exceeded aircraft limitations on the start but returned to normal parameters. Engine was then shut down per start malfunction checklist. Lesson learned: 'if it is on the wings (ice; snow; frost; etc) it's in the engine intakes...until proved otherwise.' though hard to see and get to; in the future I will be positive that the fan moves before start and/or see at least 'some' N1; prior to moving a throttle to start/idle.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CE560 EXPERIENCES HOT START DUE TO NO N1 ROTATION.
Narrative: #1 ITT EXCEEDED LIMITS ON START. CAUSE WAS NO N1 INITIALLY; ON START; MOST LIKELY DUE FAN FROZEN IN PLACE FROM MELTED SNOW. LIGHT SNOW ON LNDG THAT STOPPED SOON AFTER SHUTDOWN. 2 HRS LATER; WATER ON WINGS WAS ICE AND ACFT WAS BEING TAXIED TO DEICE AREA. #2 ENG START WAS NORMAL. #1 HAD NO N1 AFTER THROTTLE MOVED TO IDLE (WITH NORMAL FUEL FLOW AND OIL PRESSURE). PRIOR TO MOVING THROTTLE TO CUT OFF; FAN CAME UNSTUCK/UNFROZEN AND ENG STARTED. ITT EXCEEDED ACFT LIMITATIONS ON THE START BUT RETURNED TO NORMAL PARAMETERS. ENG WAS THEN SHUT DOWN PER START MALFUNCTION CHKLIST. LESSON LEARNED: 'IF IT IS ON THE WINGS (ICE; SNOW; FROST; ETC) IT'S IN THE ENG INTAKES...UNTIL PROVED OTHERWISE.' THOUGH HARD TO SEE AND GET TO; IN THE FUTURE I WILL BE POSITIVE THAT THE FAN MOVES BEFORE START AND/OR SEE AT LEAST 'SOME' N1; PRIOR TO MOVING A THROTTLE TO START/IDLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.