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Pilot of C525 undergoing FAA check ride objects to the check airman's request that he perform a takeoff with reference only to the instruments.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 724573 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200701 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sac.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Citationjet C525/C526 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 110 |
| ASRS Report | 724573 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
During a part 135-29T check with the sacramento FSDO; the inspector instructed me to perform an instrument takeoff reference heading with HSI wearing foggles. Personally; I have never performed this procedure in the actual jet before. Furthermore; I would never take off '0/0' under part 91 and my company is limited to 1/2 SM visibility. The foggles restr my visibility of top instrument panel which caused me to tilt my head back slightly. After a static takeoff; I began to feel disoriented which caused me to stray off centerline. The PNF called this to my attention and I asked him to take command of the airplane. Later; he told me that part of the wingtip had actually traveled over the grass. It was my responsibility to advise the FAA inspector that I was unable to comply with his request. This practice of performing instrument takeoff '0/0' in the actual jet must be discontinued. It is potentially dangerous and impractical; since crews must comply with part 135 takeoff visibility minimums. Thank you for your time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF C525 UNDERGOING FAA CHK RIDE OBJECTS TO THE CHK AIRMAN'S REQUEST THAT HE PERFORM A TKOF WITH REF ONLY TO THE INSTS.
Narrative: DURING A PART 135-29T CHK WITH THE SACRAMENTO FSDO; THE INSPECTOR INSTRUCTED ME TO PERFORM AN INST TKOF REF HDG WITH HSI WEARING FOGGLES. PERSONALLY; I HAVE NEVER PERFORMED THIS PROC IN THE ACTUAL JET BEFORE. FURTHERMORE; I WOULD NEVER TAKE OFF '0/0' UNDER PART 91 AND MY COMPANY IS LIMITED TO 1/2 SM VISIBILITY. THE FOGGLES RESTR MY VISIBILITY OF TOP INST PANEL WHICH CAUSED ME TO TILT MY HEAD BACK SLIGHTLY. AFTER A STATIC TKOF; I BEGAN TO FEEL DISORIENTED WHICH CAUSED ME TO STRAY OFF CTRLINE. THE PNF CALLED THIS TO MY ATTN AND I ASKED HIM TO TAKE COMMAND OF THE AIRPLANE. LATER; HE TOLD ME THAT PART OF THE WINGTIP HAD ACTUALLY TRAVELED OVER THE GRASS. IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVISE THE FAA INSPECTOR THAT I WAS UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH HIS REQUEST. THIS PRACTICE OF PERFORMING INST TKOF '0/0' IN THE ACTUAL JET MUST BE DISCONTINUED. IT IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS AND IMPRACTICAL; SINCE CREWS MUST COMPLY WITH PART 135 TKOF VISIBILITY MINIMUMS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.