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B767ER first officer reports egregious handling by ground control when faced with overheated brakes and need for crash fire rescue equipment equipment to assure safety of aircraft and occupants.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 735410 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200704 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzzz.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 12450 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 735410 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas brake temp other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | other other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance Aircraft Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : saez.tower |
Narrative:
Aircraft heavy weight 408.7 on taxi. No APU pneumatics for packs to cool aircraft. Ground does not allow engine run at gate for more than 5 mins. Pushed to hold on taxiway to cool aircraft with engines. Right engine had some eec status messages. Shut down the right engine to attempt clear and reset. Had to do xbleed start due to no APU as stated. Cleared runway and taxi back to runway. No attempt to take off due to overweight for takeoff. Captain added power in taxi and used brakes to control speed during xbleed start. When arriving at the runway again; tower advises need to take off or wait for 3 hours. Still 400 pounds overweight. Brake indicator status comes on. Right brakes 7 and rising. Cleared runway and parked on taxiway. Right front brakes reached 9;9. Hot brakes charts referred to. Indicates probable fuse plug melt. Tower insist on moving aircraft. Captain refuses. Request fire department. Again request fire department. No response by tower; says support personnel may not go to taxiway. Captain declares ground emergency and fire department twice. No response. We never received any fire department support. This presents an extreme safety hazard. Probable cause of hot brakes; extensive taxi; increased power to burn fuel down for slot time. Uncooperative ATC; in that they could have swapped slot times. Extreme cabin temperature. Engine shutdown and restart. Xbleed start while taxi and using brakes to slow aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767ER FIRST OFFICER REPORTS EGREGIOUS HANDLING BY GND CONTROL WHEN FACED WITH OVERHEATED BRAKES AND NEED FOR CFR EQUIPMENT TO ASSURE SAFETY OF ACFT AND OCCUPANTS.
Narrative: ACFT HVY WT 408.7 ON TAXI. NO APU PNEUMATICS FOR PACKS TO COOL ACFT. GND DOES NOT ALLOW ENG RUN AT GATE FOR MORE THAN 5 MINS. PUSHED TO HOLD ON TXWY TO COOL ACFT WITH ENGS. R ENG HAD SOME EEC STATUS MESSAGES. SHUT DOWN THE R ENG TO ATTEMPT CLR AND RESET. HAD TO DO XBLEED START DUE TO NO APU AS STATED. CLRED RWY AND TAXI BACK TO RWY. NO ATTEMPT TO TAKE OFF DUE TO OVERWT FOR TKOF. CAPT ADDED PWR IN TAXI AND USED BRAKES TO CTL SPD DURING XBLEED START. WHEN ARRIVING AT THE RWY AGAIN; TWR ADVISES NEED TO TAKE OFF OR WAIT FOR 3 HRS. STILL 400 LBS OVERWT. BRAKE INDICATOR STATUS COMES ON. R BRAKES 7 AND RISING. CLRED RWY AND PARKED ON TXWY. R FRONT BRAKES REACHED 9;9. HOT BRAKES CHARTS REFERRED TO. INDICATES PROBABLE FUSE PLUG MELT. TWR INSIST ON MOVING ACFT. CAPT REFUSES. REQUEST FIRE DEPT. AGAIN REQUEST FIRE DEPT. NO RESPONSE BY TWR; SAYS SUPPORT PERSONNEL MAY NOT GO TO TXWY. CAPT DECLARES GND EMER AND FIRE DEPT TWICE. NO RESPONSE. WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY FIRE DEPT SUPPORT. THIS PRESENTS AN EXTREME SAFETY HAZARD. PROBABLE CAUSE OF HOT BRAKES; EXTENSIVE TAXI; INCREASED PWR TO BURN FUEL DOWN FOR SLOT TIME. UNCOOPERATIVE ATC; IN THAT THEY COULD HAVE SWAPPED SLOT TIMES. EXTREME CABIN TEMP. ENG SHUTDOWN AND RESTART. XBLEED START WHILE TAXI AND USING BRAKES TO SLOW ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.