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A320 first officer wonders why ATC bothers to revise a pre departure clearance segment from a fix name to a radial and DME?
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 737445 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200704 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time type : 7600 |
| ASRS Report | 737445 |
| Events | |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were setting up the cockpit to fly from ord to cmh. We were filed ord moble adime sewto fwa J518 ape cmh. We got the pre departure clearance and the 'revised segment' said moble adime GIJ092036 fwa a/F. GIJ092036 is the same as sewto. Why can't they just clear us as filed? Why must we manually enter a waypoint that is already in the box? This increases the chances of errors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FO WONDERS WHY ATC BOTHERS TO REVISE A PDC SEGMENT FROM A FIX NAME TO A RADIAL AND DME?
Narrative: WE WERE SETTING UP THE COCKPIT TO FLY FROM ORD TO CMH. WE WERE FILED ORD MOBLE ADIME SEWTO FWA J518 APE CMH. WE GOT THE PDC AND THE 'REVISED SEGMENT' SAID MOBLE ADIME GIJ092036 FWA A/F. GIJ092036 IS THE SAME AS SEWTO. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST CLR US AS FILED? WHY MUST WE MANUALLY ENTER A WAYPOINT THAT IS ALREADY IN THE BOX? THIS INCREASES THE CHANCES OF ERRORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.