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Attributes | |
ACN | 741295 |
Time | |
Date | 200706 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : teb.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Beechjet 400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 1050 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 741295 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff via the teb 5 departure; runway 24; which required a climb to runway heading to 1500 ft MSL; then a turn to heading 280 degrees; maintaining 1500 ft until crossing the teb 4 NM DME. At that point; a climb to 2000 ft should have been initiated. Prior to departure; I programmed a 4 NM DME circle around teb to show on the mfd; and briefly mentioned it to the captain in the right seat. As the first officer at the controls; I hand-flew the departure until approximately 1350 ft MSL; and then engaged the autoplt; which had been armed in the heading and pitch modes. At approximately the same instant; and without my knowledge; the altitude preselect was set for 2000 ft by the captain. We climbed through 1500 ft MSL rather quickly; and I did not disengage the autoplt before we leveled at 2000 ft MSL. Quickly after leveling; the tower asked us why we were at 2000 ft; and the captain replied that we were past the 4 DME fix. He responded that we were 'nowhere near 4 DME;' and instructed us to 'look at the chart next time.' in hindsight; I think a better departure briefing could have been executed; and I think the captain could have told me that he was setting the next altitude. This would have given me the option to disagree and point out the 4 DME circle around teb VOR that I had programmed. There was not much time to execute a descent before we were queried on our altitude; and perhaps I should have descended during this time; but it happened very quickly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE400 FLT CREW CLBS TO 2000 FT PRIOR TO 4.5 DME ON THE TEB 5 OFF RWY 25 TO TEB.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TAKEOFF VIA THE TEB 5 DEP; RWY 24; WHICH REQUIRED A CLB TO RWY HEADING TO 1500 FT MSL; THEN A TURN TO HEADING 280 DEGS; MAINTAINING 1500 FT UNTIL CROSSING THE TEB 4 NM DME. AT THAT POINT; A CLB TO 2000 FT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INITIATED. PRIOR TO DEP; I PROGRAMMED A 4 NM DME CIRCLE AROUND TEB TO SHOW ON THE MFD; AND BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT TO THE CAPT IN THE R SEAT. AS THE FO AT THE CONTROLS; I HAND-FLEW THE DEP UNTIL APPROX 1350 FT MSL; AND THEN ENGAGED THE AUTOPLT; WHICH HAD BEEN ARMED IN THE HEADING AND PITCH MODES. AT APPROX THE SAME INSTANT; AND WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE; THE ALT PRESELECT WAS SET FOR 2000 FT BY THE CAPT. WE CLBED THROUGH 1500 FT MSL RATHER QUICKLY; AND I DID NOT DISENGAGE THE AUTOPLT BEFORE WE LEVELED AT 2000 FT MSL. QUICKLY AFTER LEVELING; THE TWR ASKED US WHY WE WERE AT 2000 FT; AND THE CAPT REPLIED THAT WE WERE PAST THE 4 DME FIX. HE RESPONDED THAT WE WERE 'NOWHERE NEAR 4 DME;' AND INSTRUCTED US TO 'LOOK AT THE CHART NEXT TIME.' IN HINDSIGHT; I THINK A BETTER DEP BRIEFING COULD HAVE BEEN EXECUTED; AND I THINK THE CAPT COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS SETTING THE NEXT ALT. THIS WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME THE OPTION TO DISAGREE AND POINT OUT THE 4 DME CIRCLE AROUND TEB VOR THAT I HAD PROGRAMMED. THERE WAS NOT MUCH TIME TO EXECUTE A DESCENT BEFORE WE WERE QUERIED ON OUR ALT; AND PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE DESCENDED DURING THIS TIME; BUT IT HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.