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B737-300 departure from tpa is denied WX deviation turn; elects captain's authority and turns; controller indicates no WX displayed on ATC radar.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 745809 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200707 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tpa.tracon |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa.tracon tower : las.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 282 |
| ASRS Report | 745809 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time type : 240 |
| ASRS Report | 745865 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Departed runway 18R at tampa. Departure turned us north to a heading of 350 degrees. About 5 mi later departure turns us to 010 degrees; and we had 3 buildups 5 mi ahead that we were not going to fly into. We asked departure for 10 degrees left and ATC replied 'unable.' we then asked for 30 degrees right; and ATC replied 'unable.' the first officer advised we had a buildup straight ahead. ATC advised; 'we have no WX' on our scope. I got on the radio and advised ATC that we were coming to a 035 degree heading. About 5-10 seconds later; an unidented voice came on the frequency admonishing another carrier with 'what? Do you think he is lying?' ATC stopped talking to us about 2-3 mins. After the 2-3 min lull; ATC asked us what our heading was; and we told him it was 035 degrees. Shortly thereafter; we changed frequency and made our way to our destination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 DEP FROM TPA IS DENIED WX DEVIATION TURN; ELECTS CAPT'S AUTHORITY AND TURNS; CTLR INDICATES NO WX DISPLAYED ON ATC RADAR.
Narrative: DEPARTED RWY 18R AT TAMPA. DEP TURNED US N TO A HDG OF 350 DEGS. ABOUT 5 MI LATER DEP TURNS US TO 010 DEGS; AND WE HAD 3 BUILDUPS 5 MI AHEAD THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO FLY INTO. WE ASKED DEP FOR 10 DEGS L AND ATC REPLIED 'UNABLE.' WE THEN ASKED FOR 30 DEGS R; AND ATC REPLIED 'UNABLE.' THE FO ADVISED WE HAD A BUILDUP STRAIGHT AHEAD. ATC ADVISED; 'WE HAVE NO WX' ON OUR SCOPE. I GOT ON THE RADIO AND ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE COMING TO A 035 DEG HDG. ABOUT 5-10 SECONDS LATER; AN UNIDENTED VOICE CAME ON THE FREQ ADMONISHING ANOTHER CARRIER WITH 'WHAT? DO YOU THINK HE IS LYING?' ATC STOPPED TALKING TO US ABOUT 2-3 MINS. AFTER THE 2-3 MIN LULL; ATC ASKED US WHAT OUR HDG WAS; AND WE TOLD HIM IT WAS 035 DEGS. SHORTLY THEREAFTER; WE CHANGED FREQ AND MADE OUR WAY TO OUR DEST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.