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Attributes | |
ACN | 745950 |
Time | |
Date | 200707 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC Mixed |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : honie |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 745950 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During the approach phase of flight into atl on the honie 3 arrival; ATC instructed us to cross the tiroe intersection at 14000 ft and 250 KTS. ATC also told us to expect an ILS prm to runway 28. Approximately 1-2 NM from the tiroe intersection; ATC instructed us to depart the tiroe intersection on a heading of 030 degrees and to now expect an ILS prm approach to runway 26R. We complied with ATC's instructions and quickly reloaded the ILS for runway 26R into the FMS and briefed the new approach. Just after passing the tiroe intersection; ATC asked for our indicated airspeed. We replied that we were at 290 KIAS and slowing to 250 KIAS. ATC then asked if we were assigned 250 KIAS after tiroe. We advised ATC that we were; and we were; slowing to 250 KIAS. A factor that led to this airspeed deviation was the fact that our planned approach and arrival was changed just before the tiroe intersection; creating a high workload when it was not expected. Last min runway changes have become common since a 5TH runway and RNAV arrs have been implemented in atl. Although this does increase the potential for a higher rate of ATC deviations; I have noticed many primary airports in class B airspace utilize last min runway changes; so increased vigilance to ATC instructions also have to be utilized by flight crews.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CITING DISTR FROM LATE RWY CHANGE; CL65 INBOUND TO ATL; FAILS TO REDUCE TO 250 KIAS BELOW 10000 FT.
Narrative: DURING THE APCH PHASE OF FLT INTO ATL ON THE HONIE 3 ARR; ATC INSTRUCTED US TO CROSS THE TIROE INTXN AT 14000 FT AND 250 KTS. ATC ALSO TOLD US TO EXPECT AN ILS PRM TO RWY 28. APPROX 1-2 NM FROM THE TIROE INTXN; ATC INSTRUCTED US TO DEPART THE TIROE INTXN ON A HDG OF 030 DEGS AND TO NOW EXPECT AN ILS PRM APCH TO RWY 26R. WE COMPLIED WITH ATC'S INSTRUCTIONS AND QUICKLY RELOADED THE ILS FOR RWY 26R INTO THE FMS AND BRIEFED THE NEW APCH. JUST AFTER PASSING THE TIROE INTXN; ATC ASKED FOR OUR INDICATED AIRSPD. WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE AT 290 KIAS AND SLOWING TO 250 KIAS. ATC THEN ASKED IF WE WERE ASSIGNED 250 KIAS AFTER TIROE. WE ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE; AND WE WERE; SLOWING TO 250 KIAS. A FACTOR THAT LED TO THIS AIRSPD DEV WAS THE FACT THAT OUR PLANNED APCH AND ARR WAS CHANGED JUST BEFORE THE TIROE INTXN; CREATING A HIGH WORKLOAD WHEN IT WAS NOT EXPECTED. LAST MIN RWY CHANGES HAVE BECOME COMMON SINCE A 5TH RWY AND RNAV ARRS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN ATL. ALTHOUGH THIS DOES INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR A HIGHER RATE OF ATC DEVS; I HAVE NOTICED MANY PRIMARY ARPTS IN CLASS B AIRSPACE UTILIZE LAST MIN RWY CHANGES; SO INCREASED VIGILANCE TO ATC INSTRUCTIONS ALSO HAVE TO BE UTILIZED BY FLT CREWS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.