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Attributes | |
ACN | 747512 |
Time | |
Date | 200707 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : grr.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : grr.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 8r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 747512 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 747513 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were expecting runway 26L at grr and just prior to switch over from center to approach were told to expect runway 08R. I started to change the box while we were switching frequencies and I was starting the approach/descent checklist. Check in with approach was delayed because there was another call and I was completing the checklist and getting the FMC and ILS frequencies set. Approach called us and gave us a lower altitude and I suggested to the first officer that he start slowing immediately and noted to him that the approach was going to be a slam dunk. We configured extremely early to assist in descending and I set the assigned altitudes while checking the arc on the ehsi to make sure we were going to make the runway. We were slowed to 140 KTS; fully configured approximately 15 miles from the end of the runway. Approach approved a cross past the localizer before turning which we did; slightly. I told the first officer that he had it made and to keep the airplane descending which he did. We landed on speed approximately 2500 ft down the runway.supplemental information from acn 747513: on approach to grr they kept us high then changed to a runway which was closer; and had an 18 knot tailwind on final. I configured to flaps 40 and it looked like we were ok; though it was a steep approach. At 500 ft we were on speed fully configured; powered up; but about 1.5 dots high. We were visual on a 10000 ft runway so the captain said to continue; I got a sink rate call and corrected. The captain again said continue. We landed uneventfully; and turned off at midfield.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW LANDS LONG ON RWY 8R AT GRR AFTER RWY CHANGE FROM RWY 26L PUTS THEM VERY HIGH ON THE APCH.
Narrative: WE WERE EXPECTING RWY 26L AT GRR AND JUST PRIOR TO SWITCH OVER FROM CTR TO APCH WERE TOLD TO EXPECT RWY 08R. I STARTED TO CHANGE THE BOX WHILE WE WERE SWITCHING FREQUENCIES AND I WAS STARTING THE APCH/DSCNT CHKLIST. CHK IN WITH APCH WAS DELAYED BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER CALL AND I WAS COMPLETING THE CHKLIST AND GETTING THE FMC AND ILS FREQUENCIES SET. APCH CALLED US AND GAVE US A LOWER ALTITUDE AND I SUGGESTED TO THE FO THAT HE START SLOWING IMMEDIATELY AND NOTED TO HIM THAT THE APCH WAS GOING TO BE A SLAM DUNK. WE CONFIGURED EXTREMELY EARLY TO ASSIST IN DSNDING AND I SET THE ASSIGNED ALTITUDES WHILE CHKING THE ARC ON THE EHSI TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE RWY. WE WERE SLOWED TO 140 KTS; FULLY CONFIGURED APPROX 15 MILES FROM THE END OF THE RWY. APCH APPROVED A CROSS PAST THE LOC BEFORE TURNING WHICH WE DID; SLIGHTLY. I TOLD THE FO THAT HE HAD IT MADE AND TO KEEP THE AIRPLANE DSNDING WHICH HE DID. WE LANDED ON SPEED APPROX 2500 FT DOWN THE RWY.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 747513: ON APCH TO GRR THEY KEPT US HIGH THEN CHANGED TO A RWY WHICH WAS CLOSER; AND HAD AN 18 KNOT TAILWIND ON FINAL. I CONFIGURED TO FLAPS 40 AND IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE OK; THOUGH IT WAS A STEEP APCH. AT 500 FT WE WERE ON SPEED FULLY CONFIGURED; POWERED UP; BUT ABOUT 1.5 DOTS HIGH. WE WERE VISUAL ON A 10000 FT RWY SO THE CAPT SAID TO CONTINUE; I GOT A SINK RATE CALL AND CORRECTED. THE CAPT AGAIN SAID CONTINUE. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY; AND TURNED OFF AT MIDFIELD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.