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Attributes | |
ACN | 748880 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower tower : gfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 748880 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : 2 |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On approach to bos runway 27; ATC (approach control) turned us on a 90 degree base that would have put us on 10+ mi final. Then approach control turned us (almost) directly to the FAF and cleared us for a visual approach. The captain was probably high/fast and deployed full speed brakes. While looking outside and switching from approach to tower; the captain descended the airplane well below the FAF altitude of 1700 ft. At 1000 ft I noticed the PAPI's were all red and looked down and saw the altimeter of 1000 ft. After checking in with tower; tower made the statement; 'air carrier X; I got an altitude alert. You ok?' I replied 'we are ok.' the captain leveled the airplane off at 1000 ft and captured the GS/PAPI from there. This (of course) is out over the water; very little (if any) ground reference in the approach area. I do not know what altitude was set in the altitude window and I do not have if it alerted us to any altitude. Upon clearance for a visual approach and turned toward the FAF; the captain or I should have set 1700 ft in the altitude alert window and targeted that altitude as the MDA until established on the glide path. Descent to 1000 ft at ripit was not acceptable and I feel this mistake in more rugged terrain would be bad. Real bad. As monitoring pilot; I failed to monitor this low altitude situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-500 DESCENDED WELL BELOW GLIDE PATH ON VISUAL APCH. DEVIATION RECOGNIZED AT 1000 FT; WHEN THE FLT CREW LEVELED TO RECAPTURE NORMAL GLIDE PATH.
Narrative: ON APCH TO BOS RWY 27; ATC (APCH CTL) TURNED US ON A 90 DEG BASE THAT WOULD HAVE PUT US ON 10+ MI FINAL. THEN APCH CTL TURNED US (ALMOST) DIRECTLY TO THE FAF AND CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH. THE CAPT WAS PROBABLY HIGH/FAST AND DEPLOYED FULL SPD BRAKES. WHILE LOOKING OUTSIDE AND SWITCHING FROM APCH TO TWR; THE CAPT DSNDED THE AIRPLANE WELL BELOW THE FAF ALT OF 1700 FT. AT 1000 FT I NOTICED THE PAPI'S WERE ALL RED AND LOOKED DOWN AND SAW THE ALTIMETER OF 1000 FT. AFTER CHKING IN WITH TWR; TWR MADE THE STATEMENT; 'ACR X; I GOT AN ALT ALERT. YOU OK?' I REPLIED 'WE ARE OK.' THE CAPT LEVELED THE AIRPLANE OFF AT 1000 FT AND CAPTURED THE GS/PAPI FROM THERE. THIS (OF COURSE) IS OUT OVER THE WATER; VERY LITTLE (IF ANY) GND REF IN THE APCH AREA. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT WAS SET IN THE ALT WINDOW AND I DO NOT HAVE IF IT ALERTED US TO ANY ALT. UPON CLRNC FOR A VISUAL APCH AND TURNED TOWARD THE FAF; THE CAPT OR I SHOULD HAVE SET 1700 FT IN THE ALT ALERT WINDOW AND TARGETED THAT ALT AS THE MDA UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON THE GLIDE PATH. DSCNT TO 1000 FT AT RIPIT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND I FEEL THIS MISTAKE IN MORE RUGGED TERRAIN WOULD BE BAD. REAL BAD. AS MONITORING PLT; I FAILED TO MONITOR THIS LOW ALT SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.