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Attributes | |
ACN | 750073 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : kennedy |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 13300 flight time type : 4240 |
ASRS Report | 750073 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 22 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 749615 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Pre departure clearance assigned jfk departure; breezy point climb. Captain loaded FMC. Then; a runway change ensued; forcing a reload of the departure. I noted the SID; and did not realize an error in programming had been made. The FMC showed a point that I had not seen before or after cri; indicating a programming change. I asked the captain about it. He said that was what the box loaded when he selected the departure. I rechked the SID; and saw what I wanted to see -- the radial the box indicated; which I then extended the radial without questioning it. We took off on runway 31L and crossed cri VOR; and were in the turn to intercept the outbound radial when departure turned us to a 250 degree heading. Then ATC queried us as to our assigned departure. We rechked the SID and realized somehow the canarsie climb was in the box; and not the breezy point climb. We heard nothing further about it from ATC. We checked the FMC programming; using the route 2 function; and came to understand that there may have been a recent change in FMC programming that caught us. When the pilot selects the jfk departure; 2 transitions are listed. One is cri. Breezy point crosses cri; as do most the jfk climbs; and so the captain selected it. That led to the wrong following radial being loaded. In addition; the fix that now appears as an alternate selection to cri as a transition point is new. Normally; SID transitions appear on our flight plan; and cues the pilot on what to select. This fix is new; and we went with the familiar fix that we knew we had to cross: cri. A simple suggestion would be to rename the jfk SID transitions; selectable by the pilot; to either the desired radial outbound from cri; or to the actual climb 'name.' or; put the transition fix in the flight plan.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW PROGRAMMED AND INITIALLY FLEW THE WRONG TRANSITION FOR THE KENNEDY ONE DEP.
Narrative: PDC ASSIGNED JFK DEP; BREEZY POINT CLB. CAPT LOADED FMC. THEN; A RWY CHANGE ENSUED; FORCING A RELOAD OF THE DEP. I NOTED THE SID; AND DID NOT REALIZE AN ERROR IN PROGRAMMING HAD BEEN MADE. THE FMC SHOWED A POINT THAT I HAD NOT SEEN BEFORE OR AFTER CRI; INDICATING A PROGRAMMING CHANGE. I ASKED THE CAPT ABOUT IT. HE SAID THAT WAS WHAT THE BOX LOADED WHEN HE SELECTED THE DEP. I RECHKED THE SID; AND SAW WHAT I WANTED TO SEE -- THE RADIAL THE BOX INDICATED; WHICH I THEN EXTENDED THE RADIAL WITHOUT QUESTIONING IT. WE TOOK OFF ON RWY 31L AND CROSSED CRI VOR; AND WERE IN THE TURN TO INTERCEPT THE OUTBOUND RADIAL WHEN DEP TURNED US TO A 250 DEG HDG. THEN ATC QUERIED US AS TO OUR ASSIGNED DEP. WE RECHKED THE SID AND REALIZED SOMEHOW THE CANARSIE CLB WAS IN THE BOX; AND NOT THE BREEZY POINT CLB. WE HEARD NOTHING FURTHER ABOUT IT FROM ATC. WE CHKED THE FMC PROGRAMMING; USING THE ROUTE 2 FUNCTION; AND CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A RECENT CHANGE IN FMC PROGRAMMING THAT CAUGHT US. WHEN THE PLT SELECTS THE JFK DEP; 2 TRANSITIONS ARE LISTED. ONE IS CRI. BREEZY POINT CROSSES CRI; AS DO MOST THE JFK CLBS; AND SO THE CAPT SELECTED IT. THAT LED TO THE WRONG FOLLOWING RADIAL BEING LOADED. IN ADDITION; THE FIX THAT NOW APPEARS AS AN ALTERNATE SELECTION TO CRI AS A TRANSITION POINT IS NEW. NORMALLY; SID TRANSITIONS APPEAR ON OUR FLT PLAN; AND CUES THE PLT ON WHAT TO SELECT. THIS FIX IS NEW; AND WE WENT WITH THE FAMILIAR FIX THAT WE KNEW WE HAD TO CROSS: CRI. A SIMPLE SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO RENAME THE JFK SID TRANSITIONS; SELECTABLE BY THE PLT; TO EITHER THE DESIRED RADIAL OUTBOUND FROM CRI; OR TO THE ACTUAL CLB 'NAME.' OR; PUT THE TRANSITION FIX IN THE FLT PLAN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.