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An air carrier flight crew flew a localizer approach into msp that was not authorized by the air carrier.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 750099 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200708 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 22 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 750099 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We do not have approach plates for the runways in use. Landing msp. WX on ATIS was 10 SM few 015 broken 032 broken 250. Visual approach runway 22. Visual approach runway 17. Runways 12R; 30L closed. The only approach plates we have for runways 22 and 17 are localizer runway 22 and localizer runway 17. We were assigned runway 22; on radar vectors. We discussed at length what to put in the FMGC for an approach. The only choices were the CF22; and the localizer runway 22. Because it was VFR; we chose CF22. At approximately 4000 ft and just a few degrees off the inbound course; we were cleared for the localizer runway 22. We were IMC; so we changed the approach in the FMGC to localizer runway 22; went direct snell in navigation; and descended toward 2600 ft (snell crossing ht) in vertical speed. We saw the runway before 3000 ft; and completed a visual approach to landing. The conflict is that our air carrier pilots are not authority/authorized to fly a localizer approach yet; although we are trained to do so. We need RNAV approachs for these 2 runways; because runway 12R/30L is being repaved; and will be closed for an extended period of time; so runway 22/17 confign will be used extensively. We needed to choose localizer runway 22 in the FMGC; and we are not authority/authorized to fly localizer approachs yet. We expected to; and were able to land visually. Please publish RNAV runway 22 and RNAV runway 17 approachs for msp.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIR CARRIER FLT CREW FLEW A LOC APPROACH INTO MSP THAT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE ACR.
Narrative: WE DO NOT HAVE APCH PLATES FOR THE RWYS IN USE. LNDG MSP. WX ON ATIS WAS 10 SM FEW 015 BROKEN 032 BROKEN 250. VISUAL APCH RWY 22. VISUAL APCH RWY 17. RWYS 12R; 30L CLOSED. THE ONLY APCH PLATES WE HAVE FOR RWYS 22 AND 17 ARE LOC RWY 22 AND LOC RWY 17. WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 22; ON RADAR VECTORS. WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WHAT TO PUT IN THE FMGC FOR AN APCH. THE ONLY CHOICES WERE THE CF22; AND THE LOC RWY 22. BECAUSE IT WAS VFR; WE CHOSE CF22. AT APPROX 4000 FT AND JUST A FEW DEGS OFF THE INBOUND COURSE; WE WERE CLRED FOR THE LOC RWY 22. WE WERE IMC; SO WE CHANGED THE APCH IN THE FMGC TO LOC RWY 22; WENT DIRECT SNELL IN NAV; AND DSNDED TOWARD 2600 FT (SNELL XING HT) IN VERT SPD. WE SAW THE RWY BEFORE 3000 FT; AND COMPLETED A VISUAL APCH TO LNDG. THE CONFLICT IS THAT OUR ACR PLTS ARE NOT AUTH TO FLY A LOC APCH YET; ALTHOUGH WE ARE TRAINED TO DO SO. WE NEED RNAV APCHS FOR THESE 2 RWYS; BECAUSE RWY 12R/30L IS BEING REPAVED; AND WILL BE CLOSED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME; SO RWY 22/17 CONFIGN WILL BE USED EXTENSIVELY. WE NEEDED TO CHOOSE LOC RWY 22 IN THE FMGC; AND WE ARE NOT AUTH TO FLY LOC APCHS YET. WE EXPECTED TO; AND WERE ABLE TO LAND VISUALLY. PLEASE PUBLISH RNAV RWY 22 AND RNAV RWY 17 APCHS FOR MSP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.