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Attributes | |
ACN | 750568 |
Time | |
Date | 200708 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bna.airport |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl single value : 8500 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bna.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bna.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 750568 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were descending under bna approach control. The controller had turned us to a heading of 080 degrees with a descent to 4000 ft MSL. It was a vector to runway 2R localizer. Passing 9000 ft the controller issued us directions to slow to 210 KIAS. Passing approximately 8700 ft with the aircraft descending at 600-1000 FPM; the TCAS gave us a 1-2 second traffic alert. Target was on the nose; 5 NM; same altitude! Controller was talking...I quickly changed screen to 5 NM scale. About that time; the TCAS gave us another momentary target on the nose; 2 NM; same altitude! I immediately disconnected the autoplt and initiated evasive maneuver with 30 degrees of bank while simultaneously increasing the descent rate. Controller still talking...we picked up the aircraft visually; passing just to the left side of our aircraft. It was a C172 wnwbound. As the cessna passed to our left the TCAS gave us an RA! It initially told us to climb but quickly reversed its directive to descend. It never gave us a turn directive. The RA was too late to avoid a catastrophic aircraft accident. The next thing we heard from our controller was 'understand you are in a right turn.' we advised him of the RA. We landed at bna without further incident. Upon gate arrival; I called bna TRACON and talked to the supervisor. He apologized stating the controller had just missed the traffic on his screen. He had already annotated the incident in the log...I've been flying a long time. Although used to meeting other fighter aircraft canopy to canopy; I believe had we not taken preemptive action before the TCAS issued the RA; I would not be writing this narrative.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPT DESCRIBED NMAC/TCAS RA EVENT WHILE ON DESCENT TO BNA WITH TRACON. NO TFC INFO PROVIDED BY CTLR.
Narrative: WE WERE DSNDING UNDER BNA APCH CTL. THE CTLR HAD TURNED US TO A HDG OF 080 DEGS WITH A DSCNT TO 4000 FT MSL. IT WAS A VECTOR TO RWY 2R LOC. PASSING 9000 FT THE CTLR ISSUED US DIRECTIONS TO SLOW TO 210 KIAS. PASSING APPROX 8700 FT WITH THE ACFT DSNDING AT 600-1000 FPM; THE TCAS GAVE US A 1-2 SECOND TFC ALERT. TARGET WAS ON THE NOSE; 5 NM; SAME ALT! CTLR WAS TALKING...I QUICKLY CHANGED SCREEN TO 5 NM SCALE. ABOUT THAT TIME; THE TCAS GAVE US ANOTHER MOMENTARY TARGET ON THE NOSE; 2 NM; SAME ALT! I IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND INITIATED EVASIVE MANEUVER WITH 30 DEGS OF BANK WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY INCREASING THE DSCNT RATE. CTLR STILL TALKING...WE PICKED UP THE ACFT VISUALLY; PASSING JUST TO THE L SIDE OF OUR ACFT. IT WAS A C172 WNWBOUND. AS THE CESSNA PASSED TO OUR L THE TCAS GAVE US AN RA! IT INITIALLY TOLD US TO CLB BUT QUICKLY REVERSED ITS DIRECTIVE TO DSND. IT NEVER GAVE US A TURN DIRECTIVE. THE RA WAS TOO LATE TO AVOID A CATASTROPHIC ACFT ACCIDENT. THE NEXT THING WE HEARD FROM OUR CTLR WAS 'UNDERSTAND YOU ARE IN A R TURN.' WE ADVISED HIM OF THE RA. WE LANDED AT BNA WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. UPON GATE ARR; I CALLED BNA TRACON AND TALKED TO THE SUPVR. HE APOLOGIZED STATING THE CTLR HAD JUST MISSED THE TFC ON HIS SCREEN. HE HAD ALREADY ANNOTATED THE INCIDENT IN THE LOG...I'VE BEEN FLYING A LONG TIME. ALTHOUGH USED TO MEETING OTHER FIGHTER ACFT CANOPY TO CANOPY; I BELIEVE HAD WE NOT TAKEN PREEMPTIVE ACTION BEFORE THE TCAS ISSUED THE RA; I WOULD NOT BE WRITING THIS NARRATIVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.