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Attributes | |
ACN | 757604 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bell 47 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 16700 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 757604 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Approaching to land at ZZZ; I listened to the ATIS. It sounded like ATIS mumbled something about a tfr at abc stadium. That was confusing -- I thought abc stadium was in another part of the country. There were no tfr's listed in my briefing; so I contacted FSS radio for an update. They had no tfr listing for abc stadium; nor for anyplace in the area. I dialed up ATIS again; then dialed in approach and asked where the tfr was. Def stadium. And; 'it is standard tfr for when there's a game.' peachy. I don't have the vaguest idea what def stadium is; much less where it is. I know of no FAA repository of sporting events schedules accessible to a pilot during flight briefing. I had no way of knowing what kind of game might be on; that there was a game on; that a tfr would be in effect for my arrival time; or even where the tfr was. Def stadium isn't on the sectional chart; nor on the class B chart. How can I avoid what I don't know I have to avoid if I can't find out when I have to avoid it or where is it? So approach gave me a squawk and held my hand until I got to ZZZ. Thank you; approach. There has been a lot of bad publicity lately about tfr incursions. Gee; I wonder why?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HELI PLT COMPLAINS ABOUT DIFFICULTY OF DETERMINING TIME AND LOCATION OF STADIUM TFR'S.
Narrative: APCHING TO LAND AT ZZZ; I LISTENED TO THE ATIS. IT SOUNDED LIKE ATIS MUMBLED SOMETHING ABOUT A TFR AT ABC STADIUM. THAT WAS CONFUSING -- I THOUGHT ABC STADIUM WAS IN ANOTHER PART OF THE COUNTRY. THERE WERE NO TFR'S LISTED IN MY BRIEFING; SO I CONTACTED FSS RADIO FOR AN UPDATE. THEY HAD NO TFR LISTING FOR ABC STADIUM; NOR FOR ANYPLACE IN THE AREA. I DIALED UP ATIS AGAIN; THEN DIALED IN APCH AND ASKED WHERE THE TFR WAS. DEF STADIUM. AND; 'IT IS STANDARD TFR FOR WHEN THERE'S A GAME.' PEACHY. I DON'T HAVE THE VAGUEST IDEA WHAT DEF STADIUM IS; MUCH LESS WHERE IT IS. I KNOW OF NO FAA REPOSITORY OF SPORTING EVENTS SCHEDULES ACCESSIBLE TO A PLT DURING FLT BRIEFING. I HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT KIND OF GAME MIGHT BE ON; THAT THERE WAS A GAME ON; THAT A TFR WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR MY ARR TIME; OR EVEN WHERE THE TFR WAS. DEF STADIUM ISN'T ON THE SECTIONAL CHART; NOR ON THE CLASS B CHART. HOW CAN I AVOID WHAT I DON'T KNOW I HAVE TO AVOID IF I CAN'T FIND OUT WHEN I HAVE TO AVOID IT OR WHERE IS IT? SO APCH GAVE ME A SQUAWK AND HELD MY HAND UNTIL I GOT TO ZZZ. THANK YOU; APCH. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF BAD PUBLICITY LATELY ABOUT TFR INCURSIONS. GEE; I WONDER WHY?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.