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Attributes | |
ACN | 758916 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 758916 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 4450 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 758918 |
Events | |
Anomaly | maintenance problem : improper maintenance maintenance problem : improper documentation maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : inspection performance deficiency : logbook entry performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements performance deficiency : testing |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
After going through the logbook I noticed that a deferral for flaps 1/2 speed message had the wrong date on it. It was recorded on the oct/xx/07 log page; but had oct/xx/07 as date it was deferred. I called maintenance control and they had me change the date to oct/xy/07. After that conversation I checked the MEL for anything that I needed to do to comply. I saw there was a large amount of testing that had to be done for this item. There was no note in the logbook that this had been done. So I called maintenance control and was told that it was done as part the deferral. I told the controller that a pilot had done the deferral; not maintenance. I then said I was not comfortable with that and thought we should do it because it needed to be done in a 24 hour time frame and we were coming up on that time. The controller then told me that it was my job to get the flight out and not waste time. I told him that I was not going to go until we did the procedure. He then started through the task. Approximately 1/2 way through the task his supervisor got on the radio and told me to stop because it had been done on the oct/xy/07; and to quit making this flight late. He assured me that it had been done. We departed for ZZZ and in ZZZ I called the chief pilot; who was the pilot who did the deferral and was told that he did not do the procedure; just the paperwork with the maintenance controller. I then called maintenance control again; and was told again that they were correct; it had been done. I told them about talking to the chief pilot. Then and only then did they agree to do the procedure for deferral. This is a classic example of maintenance control pushing pilots to get flts out on time and not taking the time to further research issues such as this. Also; chief pilot should have known better as he is supposed to have a very good knowledge of our operating procedures. If he does not know how to do a basic maintenance deferral; perhaps more training is needed; as he is supposed to show knowledge and leadership as a chief pilot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CAPTAIN DISCOVERS REQUIRED MAINT INSPECTION FOR DEFERRAL WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED. MAINT SUPERVISOR ATTEMPTS TO HAVE FLT DEPART WITHOUT INSPECTION.
Narrative: AFTER GOING THROUGH THE LOGBOOK I NOTICED THAT A DEFERRAL FOR FLAPS 1/2 SPD MESSAGE HAD THE WRONG DATE ON IT. IT WAS RECORDED ON THE OCT/XX/07 LOG PAGE; BUT HAD OCT/XX/07 AS DATE IT WAS DEFERRED. I CALLED MAINT CTL AND THEY HAD ME CHANGE THE DATE TO OCT/XY/07. AFTER THAT CONVERSATION I CHKED THE MEL FOR ANYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO DO TO COMPLY. I SAW THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TESTING THAT HAD TO BE DONE FOR THIS ITEM. THERE WAS NO NOTE IN THE LOGBOOK THAT THIS HAD BEEN DONE. SO I CALLED MAINT CTL AND WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS DONE AS PART THE DEFERRAL. I TOLD THE CTLR THAT A PLT HAD DONE THE DEFERRAL; NOT MAINT. I THEN SAID I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO IT BECAUSE IT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN A 24 HR TIME FRAME AND WE WERE COMING UP ON THAT TIME. THE CTLR THEN TOLD ME THAT IT WAS MY JOB TO GET THE FLT OUT AND NOT WASTE TIME. I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO GO UNTIL WE DID THE PROC. HE THEN STARTED THROUGH THE TASK. APPROX 1/2 WAY THROUGH THE TASK HIS SUPVR GOT ON THE RADIO AND TOLD ME TO STOP BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN DONE ON THE OCT/XY/07; AND TO QUIT MAKING THIS FLT LATE. HE ASSURED ME THAT IT HAD BEEN DONE. WE DEPARTED FOR ZZZ AND IN ZZZ I CALLED THE CHIEF PLT; WHO WAS THE PLT WHO DID THE DEFERRAL AND WAS TOLD THAT HE DID NOT DO THE PROC; JUST THE PAPERWORK WITH THE MAINT CTLR. I THEN CALLED MAINT CTL AGAIN; AND WAS TOLD AGAIN THAT THEY WERE CORRECT; IT HAD BEEN DONE. I TOLD THEM ABOUT TALKING TO THE CHIEF PLT. THEN AND ONLY THEN DID THEY AGREE TO DO THE PROC FOR DEFERRAL. THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF MAINT CTL PUSHING PLTS TO GET FLTS OUT ON TIME AND NOT TAKING THE TIME TO FURTHER RESEARCH ISSUES SUCH AS THIS. ALSO; CHIEF PLT SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER AS HE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A VERY GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF OUR OPERATING PROCS. IF HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO DO A BASIC MAINT DEFERRAL; PERHAPS MORE TRAINING IS NEEDED; AS HE IS SUPPOSED TO SHOW KNOWLEDGE AND LEADERSHIP AS A CHIEF PLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.