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Attributes | |
ACN | 759135 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Fog |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : atl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 759135 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : atl.tower |
Narrative:
Poor ATC planning execution and judgement. We had to go around as we were placed too close to the aircraft that was given a late takeoff clearance just ahead of our landing. The controller was using a very poor 'technique' for operations in low CAT 1 WX; whereby controller would not clear an aircraft to land until very short final. This was just as the aircraft was starting to break out of the WX right at CAT 1 minimums on a tightly spaced prm approach interspersed with takeoffs on the same runway. This is not the time to be having to talk on the radio distraction from trying to acquire the runway for landing -- very poor way to do this; and; in fact; I have never seen this done before anywhere. Once finally on the runway and rolling out at high speed; controller attempted to give us turn off and taxi instructions and asked us to clear the runway (as controller had already done on short final also); as soon as possible. This is too much communication too late in the approach. We slowed and cleared as soon as we safely could do it. The runway was wet and had standing pools of water on it; and rolling out in a 138000 pound airplane on a wet runway you don't rush the turnoff. This whole situation was very dangerous at atl and continues to worsen. They cannot expect anywhere near a clear dry day VFR flow-rate in bad WX and wet surfaces. This tower continues to operate any way they please; with attitude; and continues to get away with it; until an accident happens.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR VOICED CONCERN REGARDING CTLR TECHNIQUE AT ATL WHEN LNDG CLRNC WAS WITHHELD UNTIL SHORT FINAL; QUESTIONING CTLR PLANNING/JUDGEMENT.
Narrative: POOR ATC PLANNING EXECUTION AND JUDGEMENT. WE HAD TO GO AROUND AS WE WERE PLACED TOO CLOSE TO THE ACFT THAT WAS GIVEN A LATE TKOF CLRNC JUST AHEAD OF OUR LNDG. THE CTLR WAS USING A VERY POOR 'TECHNIQUE' FOR OPS IN LOW CAT 1 WX; WHEREBY CTLR WOULD NOT CLR AN ACFT TO LAND UNTIL VERY SHORT FINAL. THIS WAS JUST AS THE ACFT WAS STARTING TO BREAK OUT OF THE WX RIGHT AT CAT 1 MINIMUMS ON A TIGHTLY SPACED PRM APCH INTERSPERSED WITH TKOFS ON THE SAME RWY. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE HAVING TO TALK ON THE RADIO DISTR FROM TRYING TO ACQUIRE THE RWY FOR LNDG -- VERY POOR WAY TO DO THIS; AND; IN FACT; I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE ANYWHERE. ONCE FINALLY ON THE RWY AND ROLLING OUT AT HIGH SPD; CTLR ATTEMPTED TO GIVE US TURN OFF AND TAXI INSTRUCTIONS AND ASKED US TO CLR THE RWY (AS CTLR HAD ALREADY DONE ON SHORT FINAL ALSO); ASAP. THIS IS TOO MUCH COM TOO LATE IN THE APCH. WE SLOWED AND CLRED AS SOON AS WE SAFELY COULD DO IT. THE RWY WAS WET AND HAD STANDING POOLS OF WATER ON IT; AND ROLLING OUT IN A 138000 LB AIRPLANE ON A WET RWY YOU DON'T RUSH THE TURNOFF. THIS WHOLE SITUATION WAS VERY DANGEROUS AT ATL AND CONTINUES TO WORSEN. THEY CANNOT EXPECT ANYWHERE NEAR A CLR DRY DAY VFR FLOW-RATE IN BAD WX AND WET SURFACES. THIS TWR CONTINUES TO OPERATE ANY WAY THEY PLEASE; WITH ATTITUDE; AND CONTINUES TO GET AWAY WITH IT; UNTIL AN ACCIDENT HAPPENS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.