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Attributes | |
ACN | 759499 |
Time | |
Date | 200710 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gle.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna Super Skywagon/Super Skylane |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beechcraft Twin Turboprop Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 859 |
ASRS Report | 759499 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Miss Distance | vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying direct to gle using my garmin 430. I was monitoring the radio but not using it for position reporting. I flew into gle; left downwind for runway 35 at a 45 degree angle; southwest. I heard the king air state that he was on final before I was on downwind. Prior to me turning base for runway 35; the king air stated again; that he was on final. The king air did not fly a pattern approach to land and must have flown a 'direct to final' (long final). I waited for the king air to pass my left wing before turning to left base for runway 35. Before my wheels touched down; the king air had cleared the active runway. Once on the ground; the pilot of the king air stated that we almost had a midair collision. He had TCAS on board and evidently it gave a warning light. He also stated that he called back to center for position of my aircraft. The king air pilot stated that we had only 100 ft of separation. I first spotted the king air while I was on left downwind for runway 35. We must have came close to colliding much further south of the airport; if in fact we did. I will use my radio; always; from this point forward even though it may not be a requirement at gle (uncontrolled airspace and no tower). I do believe that the king air; since he had visual contact and TCAS on board; should not have allowed us to get as close as 100 ft of separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C-205 IS INVOLVED IN NMAC WHILE LNDG AT UNCONTROLLED ARPT.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING DIRECT TO GLE USING MY GARMIN 430. I WAS MONITORING THE RADIO BUT NOT USING IT FOR POS REPORTING. I FLEW INTO GLE; L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35 AT A 45 DEG ANGLE; SW. I HEARD THE KING AIR STATE THAT HE WAS ON FINAL BEFORE I WAS ON DOWNWIND. PRIOR TO ME TURNING BASE FOR RWY 35; THE KING AIR STATED AGAIN; THAT HE WAS ON FINAL. THE KING AIR DID NOT FLY A PATTERN APCH TO LAND AND MUST HAVE FLOWN A 'DIRECT TO FINAL' (LONG FINAL). I WAITED FOR THE KING AIR TO PASS MY L WING BEFORE TURNING TO L BASE FOR RWY 35. BEFORE MY WHEELS TOUCHED DOWN; THE KING AIR HAD CLRED THE ACTIVE RWY. ONCE ON THE GND; THE PLT OF THE KING AIR STATED THAT WE ALMOST HAD A MIDAIR COLLISION. HE HAD TCAS ON BOARD AND EVIDENTLY IT GAVE A WARNING LIGHT. HE ALSO STATED THAT HE CALLED BACK TO CTR FOR POS OF MY ACFT. THE KING AIR PLT STATED THAT WE HAD ONLY 100 FT OF SEPARATION. I FIRST SPOTTED THE KING AIR WHILE I WAS ON L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35. WE MUST HAVE CAME CLOSE TO COLLIDING MUCH FURTHER S OF THE ARPT; IF IN FACT WE DID. I WILL USE MY RADIO; ALWAYS; FROM THIS POINT FORWARD EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE A REQUIREMENT AT GLE (UNCTLED AIRSPACE AND NO TWR). I DO BELIEVE THAT THE KING AIR; SINCE HE HAD VISUAL CONTACT AND TCAS ON BOARD; SHOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED US TO GET AS CLOSE AS 100 FT OF SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.