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Attributes | |
ACN | 760542 |
Time | |
Date | 200711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 34 flight time total : 1267 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 760542 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Prior to flight; I spoke to a co-worker who was going to fly ZZZ. I asked him what altitude he would fly and he said he would fly at 6500 ft. For some unknown reason; his statement did not trigger a response from me that 6500 ft would be the wrong altitude for an eastbound flight. Subsequent to this conversation; I returned to the FBO; went to the restroom and called FSS for a briefing. WX was very good; with only a possibility of clouds 6000 ft scattered in east tx. I mentally decided to fly at 5500 ft to avoid the clouds. Preflight was routine; and I taxied out for departure. There was difficulty getting a portable GPS to function properly; and I gave up on that at the run-up area after a few frustrating mins. After departure; I communicated with an inbound flight on CTAF; and then called approach for VFR flight following. When requesting flight following; for some unknown reason; I reported climbing to 6500 ft instead of 5500 ft. I received a transponder code and proceeded east as I climbed to 6500 ft. There was little traffic near my route of flight; and I received no TA's from approach. I was handed off to center for additional advisories. A few mins later; I heard center advising a baron of my position and altitude; noting a distance of about 10 mi. A few mins later; center advised me that the baron was 4 mi at 2 O'clock position; level at 6500 ft. I responded 'looking' and asked to repeat altitude. About 30 seconds later; at about 1 mi distance; I saw the baron. It was headed northwest. Just as I saw the baron; center called the baron with instructions to commence 'an immediate climb;' which he began. I made an immediate right turn of about 45 degrees to evade the baron. I called center and said 'traffic in sight and evaded.' I estimate we passed about 300 ft horizontally and 300 ft vertically. The baron pilot seemed to see my airplane just as we passed each other at 180 degree difference in flight path. After a few quiet seconds; he commented that 6500 ft was the wrong altitude for an eastbound flight. Duh! He was right. My airplane was at the wrong altitude due to my error; possibly the result of the suggestion that my co-worker would fly eastbound at that altitude? Or maybe it was the frustrating time spent on the portable GPS? I recall thinking that my co-worker might be selecting 6500 ft to stay below the floor of the local MOA's (7000 ft) as he flew direct to ZZZ. I was shocked that I had made this error; as I always have used the rule '0-179' means odd altitude since 179 is an odd number and 180 to 359 is even altitude since 180 is an even number. This error was my responsibility; and I will rechk all planned altitudes in the future to ensure I do not repeat this error. A contributing factor to the incident was that neither controller noticed or mentioned to me that I was at the wrong altitude for direction of flight; and it did not occur to me either.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 PILOT FLYING EAST AT 6500 FEET HAS CRITICAL CONFLICT WITH A NW BOUND BARON ALSO AT 6500 FEET. BOTH ACFT ARE IN RADAR CONTACT AND TALKING TO CENTER.
Narrative: PRIOR TO FLT; I SPOKE TO A CO-WORKER WHO WAS GOING TO FLY ZZZ. I ASKED HIM WHAT ALT HE WOULD FLY AND HE SAID HE WOULD FLY AT 6500 FT. FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON; HIS STATEMENT DID NOT TRIGGER A RESPONSE FROM ME THAT 6500 FT WOULD BE THE WRONG ALT FOR AN EBOUND FLT. SUBSEQUENT TO THIS CONVERSATION; I RETURNED TO THE FBO; WENT TO THE RESTROOM AND CALLED FSS FOR A BRIEFING. WX WAS VERY GOOD; WITH ONLY A POSSIBILITY OF CLOUDS 6000 FT SCATTERED IN E TX. I MENTALLY DECIDED TO FLY AT 5500 FT TO AVOID THE CLOUDS. PREFLT WAS ROUTINE; AND I TAXIED OUT FOR DEP. THERE WAS DIFFICULTY GETTING A PORTABLE GPS TO FUNCTION PROPERLY; AND I GAVE UP ON THAT AT THE RUN-UP AREA AFTER A FEW FRUSTRATING MINS. AFTER DEP; I COMMUNICATED WITH AN INBOUND FLT ON CTAF; AND THEN CALLED APCH FOR VFR FLT FOLLOWING. WHEN REQUESTING FLT FOLLOWING; FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON; I RPTED CLBING TO 6500 FT INSTEAD OF 5500 FT. I RECEIVED A XPONDER CODE AND PROCEEDED E AS I CLBED TO 6500 FT. THERE WAS LITTLE TFC NEAR MY RTE OF FLT; AND I RECEIVED NO TA'S FROM APCH. I WAS HANDED OFF TO CTR FOR ADDITIONAL ADVISORIES. A FEW MINS LATER; I HEARD CTR ADVISING A BARON OF MY POS AND ALT; NOTING A DISTANCE OF ABOUT 10 MI. A FEW MINS LATER; CTR ADVISED ME THAT THE BARON WAS 4 MI AT 2 O'CLOCK POS; LEVEL AT 6500 FT. I RESPONDED 'LOOKING' AND ASKED TO REPEAT ALT. ABOUT 30 SECONDS LATER; AT ABOUT 1 MI DISTANCE; I SAW THE BARON. IT WAS HEADED NW. JUST AS I SAW THE BARON; CTR CALLED THE BARON WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO COMMENCE 'AN IMMEDIATE CLB;' WHICH HE BEGAN. I MADE AN IMMEDIATE R TURN OF ABOUT 45 DEGS TO EVADE THE BARON. I CALLED CTR AND SAID 'TFC IN SIGHT AND EVADED.' I ESTIMATE WE PASSED ABOUT 300 FT HORIZLY AND 300 FT VERTICALLY. THE BARON PLT SEEMED TO SEE MY AIRPLANE JUST AS WE PASSED EACH OTHER AT 180 DEG DIFFERENCE IN FLT PATH. AFTER A FEW QUIET SECONDS; HE COMMENTED THAT 6500 FT WAS THE WRONG ALT FOR AN EBOUND FLT. DUH! HE WAS RIGHT. MY AIRPLANE WAS AT THE WRONG ALT DUE TO MY ERROR; POSSIBLY THE RESULT OF THE SUGGESTION THAT MY CO-WORKER WOULD FLY EBOUND AT THAT ALT? OR MAYBE IT WAS THE FRUSTRATING TIME SPENT ON THE PORTABLE GPS? I RECALL THINKING THAT MY CO-WORKER MIGHT BE SELECTING 6500 FT TO STAY BELOW THE FLOOR OF THE LCL MOA'S (7000 FT) AS HE FLEW DIRECT TO ZZZ. I WAS SHOCKED THAT I HAD MADE THIS ERROR; AS I ALWAYS HAVE USED THE RULE '0-179' MEANS ODD ALT SINCE 179 IS AN ODD NUMBER AND 180 TO 359 IS EVEN ALT SINCE 180 IS AN EVEN NUMBER. THIS ERROR WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY; AND I WILL RECHK ALL PLANNED ALTS IN THE FUTURE TO ENSURE I DO NOT REPEAT THIS ERROR. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE INCIDENT WAS THAT NEITHER CTLR NOTICED OR MENTIONED TO ME THAT I WAS AT THE WRONG ALT FOR DIRECTION OF FLT; AND IT DID NOT OCCUR TO ME EITHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.