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Attributes | |
ACN | 761220 |
Time | |
Date | 200711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : civet |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 247 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 761220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 96 |
ASRS Report | 761209 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On arrival on the civet 5 into lax we were descending via the runway 24R transition instead of runway 25L transition. I was very busy trying to instruct the first officer on the arrival descent profile and missed the transition error. ATC called us slightly right of course and asked if we were correcting. We told them we were showing on course descending via civet 5 runway 24R. They came back with you were cleared descend via civet 5 runway 25L. We were approximately 45 mi out with 12000 ft in the MCP. We corrected back left to runway 25L and may have been slightly high on the next altitude restr; however; ATC gave us an at or above clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLT CREW DEVIATED FROM THE ASSIGNED TRACK ON ARRIVAL INTO LAX.
Narrative: ON ARR ON THE CIVET 5 INTO LAX WE WERE DSNDING VIA THE RWY 24R TRANSITION INSTEAD OF RWY 25L TRANSITION. I WAS VERY BUSY TRYING TO INSTRUCT THE FO ON THE ARR DSCNT PROFILE AND MISSED THE TRANSITION ERROR. ATC CALLED US SLIGHTLY R OF COURSE AND ASKED IF WE WERE CORRECTING. WE TOLD THEM WE WERE SHOWING ON COURSE DSNDING VIA CIVET 5 RWY 24R. THEY CAME BACK WITH YOU WERE CLRED DSND VIA CIVET 5 RWY 25L. WE WERE APPROX 45 MI OUT WITH 12000 FT IN THE MCP. WE CORRECTED BACK L TO RWY 25L AND MAY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY HIGH ON THE NEXT ALT RESTR; HOWEVER; ATC GAVE US AN AT OR ABOVE CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.