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Attributes | |
ACN | 767993 |
Time | |
Date | 200801 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : riivr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5600 |
ASRS Report | 767993 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Passing through FL240 lax approach assigned us the RIIVR1 arrival to lax with no runway assigned. We hand loaded each point for the arrival to runway 25L because it is not in our database. Crossing about 16000 ft they assigned us the arrival to runway 24R. Of course the runway 24R ILS approach is loadable; but all the points outside of that on the RIIVR1 arrival are not. At that point we were looking for traffic; completing a checklist; and actually having to hand load each point on the arrival. The worst time to be doing all this; definitely work overload. If we had any idea that this arrival would have been a possibility we would have briefed it well ahead of time and had both arrs and runways loaded in the box. It was a surprise to the whole crew.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B777-200 ON THE LAX RIIVR 1 ARRIVAL LOADED EACH POINT ON THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THE DATABASE. CREW WAS SURPRISED BY LATE ARR ASSIGNMENT.
Narrative: PASSING THROUGH FL240 LAX APCH ASSIGNED US THE RIIVR1 ARR TO LAX WITH NO RWY ASSIGNED. WE HAND LOADED EACH POINT FOR THE ARR TO RWY 25L BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN OUR DATABASE. XING ABOUT 16000 FT THEY ASSIGNED US THE ARR TO RWY 24R. OF COURSE THE RWY 24R ILS APCH IS LOADABLE; BUT ALL THE POINTS OUTSIDE OF THAT ON THE RIIVR1 ARR ARE NOT. AT THAT POINT WE WERE LOOKING FOR TFC; COMPLETING A CHKLIST; AND ACTUALLY HAVING TO HAND LOAD EACH POINT ON THE ARR. THE WORST TIME TO BE DOING ALL THIS; DEFINITELY WORK OVERLOAD. IF WE HAD ANY IDEA THAT THIS ARR WOULD HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY WE WOULD HAVE BRIEFED IT WELL AHEAD OF TIME AND HAD BOTH ARRS AND RWYS LOADED IN THE BOX. IT WAS A SURPRISE TO THE WHOLE CREW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.