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Attributes | |
ACN | 770817 |
Time | |
Date | 200801 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sac.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sac.tower tower : crg.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citationjet C525/C526 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 2 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 770817 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : msaw other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was sic and PNF during this leg. We were vectored in IMC for our descent into sac. We were given a turn through final and then the controller asked if we needed another turn back to final. I told him yes and he gave us the heading to intercept final; an altitude of 1500 ft until established and 'cleared for the ILS runway 2 approach sac.' we were continuing on the approach when the PIC announced that we were not intercepting GS. I doublechked that we were indeed below GS where we wanted to be so that we could intercept GS; which we were so I figured that we would pick it up. In referencing the chart; we discussed that we should have intercepted GS at 1347 ft and we were still at 1500 ft with an indication on our pfd that we were under the GS still while we were in IMC with rain; and poor visibility. Course and frequencys were verified. The PF/PIC began to descend even though we did not have GS intercept and had no indication that we were on the proper GS for the ILS which made me nervous. I didn't really realize that he was doing so as I was focused 'outside' looking for the runway lighting until I saw ground contact out of my side window and we were much closer to the ground than I was comfortable with not having proper indications that we were indeed on the GS. I realized that the PIC had left our decision altitude without GS capture about the same time tower noted a 'low altitude alert' and we were instructed to check our altitude immediately. I told PIC to 'go missed; go missed -- we don't know where we are on the approach' where he agreed to go missed. We were probably around 300 ft AGL at that point. Tower instructed us to continue runway heading on the approach and climb to 2000 ft. I'm unsure of the next heading instruction now in hindsight as I was pretty uncomfortable at this point and was trying to monitor what the PIC was doing but the tower wasn't happy with the heading the PIC was actually flying at this point and corrected us back to yet another heading of which now I am unable to remember. We were passed back to norcal approach control who vectored us around for the approach again. We were told that they had a green light on the GS indicator and that it appeared to be functioning properly and no one else had had any problems with it. We were vectored around successfully for the approach and we made a successful landing on runway 2 at sac.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CJ ON ILS INTERCEPT VECTOR DEPARTS CLEARED ALT PRIOR TO GS CAPTURE. LOW ALT ALERT RESULTS FOLLOWED BY A TRACK DEVIATION REQUIRING ATC INTERVENTION.
Narrative: I WAS SIC AND PNF DURING THIS LEG. WE WERE VECTORED IN IMC FOR OUR DSCNT INTO SAC. WE WERE GIVEN A TURN THROUGH FINAL AND THEN THE CTLR ASKED IF WE NEEDED ANOTHER TURN BACK TO FINAL. I TOLD HIM YES AND HE GAVE US THE HDG TO INTERCEPT FINAL; AN ALT OF 1500 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED AND 'CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 2 APCH SAC.' WE WERE CONTINUING ON THE APCH WHEN THE PIC ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE NOT INTERCEPTING GS. I DOUBLECHKED THAT WE WERE INDEED BELOW GS WHERE WE WANTED TO BE SO THAT WE COULD INTERCEPT GS; WHICH WE WERE SO I FIGURED THAT WE WOULD PICK IT UP. IN REFING THE CHART; WE DISCUSSED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE INTERCEPTED GS AT 1347 FT AND WE WERE STILL AT 1500 FT WITH AN INDICATION ON OUR PFD THAT WE WERE UNDER THE GS STILL WHILE WE WERE IN IMC WITH RAIN; AND POOR VISIBILITY. COURSE AND FREQS WERE VERIFIED. THE PF/PIC BEGAN TO DSND EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT HAVE GS INTERCEPT AND HAD NO INDICATION THAT WE WERE ON THE PROPER GS FOR THE ILS WHICH MADE ME NERVOUS. I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE THAT HE WAS DOING SO AS I WAS FOCUSED 'OUTSIDE' LOOKING FOR THE RWY LIGHTING UNTIL I SAW GND CONTACT OUT OF MY SIDE WINDOW AND WE WERE MUCH CLOSER TO THE GND THAN I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH NOT HAVING PROPER INDICATIONS THAT WE WERE INDEED ON THE GS. I REALIZED THAT THE PIC HAD LEFT OUR DECISION ALT WITHOUT GS CAPTURE ABOUT THE SAME TIME TWR NOTED A 'LOW ALT ALERT' AND WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CHK OUR ALT IMMEDIATELY. I TOLD PIC TO 'GO MISSED; GO MISSED -- WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE APCH' WHERE HE AGREED TO GO MISSED. WE WERE PROBABLY AROUND 300 FT AGL AT THAT POINT. TWR INSTRUCTED US TO CONTINUE RWY HDG ON THE APCH AND CLB TO 2000 FT. I'M UNSURE OF THE NEXT HDG INSTRUCTION NOW IN HINDSIGHT AS I WAS PRETTY UNCOMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT AND WAS TRYING TO MONITOR WHAT THE PIC WAS DOING BUT THE TWR WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE HDG THE PIC WAS ACTUALLY FLYING AT THIS POINT AND CORRECTED US BACK TO YET ANOTHER HDG OF WHICH NOW I AM UNABLE TO REMEMBER. WE WERE PASSED BACK TO NORCAL APCH CTL WHO VECTORED US AROUND FOR THE APCH AGAIN. WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY HAD A GREEN LIGHT ON THE GS INDICATOR AND THAT IT APPEARED TO BE FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND NO ONE ELSE HAD HAD ANY PROBS WITH IT. WE WERE VECTORED AROUND SUCCESSFULLY FOR THE APCH AND WE MADE A SUCCESSFUL LNDG ON RWY 2 AT SAC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.