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B737 captain laments the congestion and apparent reckless driving of vehicle operators on the phl ramp.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 771998 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200801 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-500 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 282 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 771998 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Company |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On this pairing I operated 2 arrs and 2 departures from gates in phl. The following conditions happened on every one of these flts. Baggage trains; single baggage tractors; pickup trucks and fuel trucks cross from one concourse to another totally at random. Phl ramp control evidently does not communication with any of these vehicles. At most airports there are at least roadways painted on the ramp for this type traffic to follow. We had to stop and wait several times on each of the above taxies for such vehicles to go their random way. 2 baggage tractors I remember driving within 15 ft of our wingtip while we were stopped. The ramp is so congested in phl that I don't have a good suggestion for rerouting this traffic. However; the drivers need to be trained to yield to airplanes. If we haven't already had several airplane collisions with ground vehicles in phl; we will have in the near future. The most aggressive drivers were on other carrier equipment. Ground drivers need to be trained to yield to airplanes taxiing. The airport police need to cite aggressive and foolish driving on the ramp.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CAPT LAMENTS THE CONGESTION AND APPARENT RECKLESS DRIVING OF VEHICLE OPERATORS ON THE PHL RAMP.
Narrative: ON THIS PAIRING I OPERATED 2 ARRS AND 2 DEPS FROM GATES IN PHL. THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS HAPPENED ON EVERY ONE OF THESE FLTS. BAGGAGE TRAINS; SINGLE BAGGAGE TRACTORS; PICKUP TRUCKS AND FUEL TRUCKS CROSS FROM ONE CONCOURSE TO ANOTHER TOTALLY AT RANDOM. PHL RAMP CTL EVIDENTLY DOES NOT COM WITH ANY OF THESE VEHICLES. AT MOST ARPTS THERE ARE AT LEAST ROADWAYS PAINTED ON THE RAMP FOR THIS TYPE TFC TO FOLLOW. WE HAD TO STOP AND WAIT SEVERAL TIMES ON EACH OF THE ABOVE TAXIES FOR SUCH VEHICLES TO GO THEIR RANDOM WAY. 2 BAGGAGE TRACTORS I REMEMBER DRIVING WITHIN 15 FT OF OUR WINGTIP WHILE WE WERE STOPPED. THE RAMP IS SO CONGESTED IN PHL THAT I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SUGGESTION FOR REROUTING THIS TFC. HOWEVER; THE DRIVERS NEED TO BE TRAINED TO YIELD TO AIRPLANES. IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY HAD SEVERAL AIRPLANE COLLISIONS WITH GND VEHICLES IN PHL; WE WILL HAVE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE MOST AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS WERE ON OTHER CARRIER EQUIP. GND DRIVERS NEED TO BE TRAINED TO YIELD TO AIRPLANES TAXIING. THE ARPT POLICE NEED TO CITE AGGRESSIVE AND FOOLISH DRIVING ON THE RAMP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.