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Attributes | |
ACN | 773964 |
Time | |
Date | 200802 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : riivr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 215 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 1850 |
ASRS Report | 773964 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Captain was PF. On riivr one STAR to lax. From ATIS information for lax we planned on and briefed the approach for runway 25L and put it in the FMS. Socal approach told us to plan on runway 24R but the next controller may give us runway 25L. We were getting close to the riivr intersection and realized we were not going to get runway 25L and started to change the runway and transition in the FMS. At that time we were given a frequency change. By the time we got the FMS programmed we were off laterally and vertically on the STAR for the runway 24R transition. Checked in with the new controller and explained what had happened; that we were set up for runway 25L and just got switched and set up for runway 24R and we were getting reestablished on the correct transition and doing our best to comply with the restrs. Controller said ok and asked if we wanted to switch back to runway 25L. We said no and stayed on the approach for runway 24R. The controller cleared us for the approach and the rest of the flight was uneventful. We had taken off almost 6 hours prior. First leg flown that day and as a crew. Last min change of runway and expectation of landing on a different runway. All of these things contributed to the slow switch over and programming of the FMS. Did the best we could in the time allowed and explained the situation to ATC so they would know we were trying to get established on the assigned STAR transition.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 DEVIATED FROM CHARTED VERTICAL AND LATERAL TRACKS AFTER RECEIVING A CLOSE IN RWY CHANGE ON ARR TO LAX.
Narrative: CAPT WAS PF. ON RIIVR ONE STAR TO LAX. FROM ATIS INFO FOR LAX WE PLANNED ON AND BRIEFED THE APCH FOR RWY 25L AND PUT IT IN THE FMS. SOCAL APCH TOLD US TO PLAN ON RWY 24R BUT THE NEXT CTLR MAY GIVE US RWY 25L. WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE RIIVR INTXN AND REALIZED WE WERE NOT GOING TO GET RWY 25L AND STARTED TO CHANGE THE RWY AND TRANSITION IN THE FMS. AT THAT TIME WE WERE GIVEN A FREQUENCY CHANGE. BY THE TIME WE GOT THE FMS PROGRAMMED WE WERE OFF LATERALLY AND VERTICALLY ON THE STAR FOR THE RWY 24R TRANSITION. CHKED IN WITH THE NEW CTLR AND EXPLAINED WHAT HAD HAPPENED; THAT WE WERE SET UP FOR RWY 25L AND JUST GOT SWITCHED AND SET UP FOR RWY 24R AND WE WERE GETTING REESTABLISHED ON THE CORRECT TRANSITION AND DOING OUR BEST TO COMPLY WITH THE RESTRS. CTLR SAID OK AND ASKED IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH BACK TO RWY 25L. WE SAID NO AND STAYED ON THE APCH FOR RWY 24R. THE CTLR CLRED US FOR THE APCH AND THE REST OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. WE HAD TAKEN OFF ALMOST 6 HRS PRIOR. FIRST LEG FLOWN THAT DAY AND AS A CREW. LAST MIN CHANGE OF RWY AND EXPECTATION OF LNDG ON A DIFFERENT RWY. ALL OF THESE THINGS CONTRIBUTED TO THE SLOW SWITCH OVER AND PROGRAMMING OF THE FMS. DID THE BEST WE COULD IN THE TIME ALLOWED AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO ATC SO THEY WOULD KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO GET ESTABLISHED ON THE ASSIGNED STAR TRANSITION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.