Pilots of several aircraft receive FSS briefing advising them R2910 was inactive. All fly through the area and are told to contact the center to explain their intrusion into active restricted airspace.

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Attributes
ACN	775991
Time
Date	200803
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	special use airspace : r2910.restricted
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl single value : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx.artcc
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 450 flight time type : 430
ASRS Report	775991
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 200 flight time type : 170
ASRS Report	776656
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	FAA Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	FAA
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

While planning a flight I called FSS and obtained a WX briefing; also specifically asked if R-2910 was going to be hot or cold today. The briefer stated that R-2910 was cold. We took off and headed to dab with our route right through R-2910; along with 4 other airplanes. Upon landing at dab I was instructed to contact jax approach. When I called jax approach; I was notified that R-2910 was hot and that I busted airspace along with 4 other airplanes in my convoy. The problem was obviously caused by faulty information given by a professional briefer which caused confusion among 5 experienced pilots. This could have been prevented if the briefer were to give accurate information and also if I had called jax approach (the controling agency) for the restr airspace information while in-flight.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLTS OF SEVERAL ACFT RECEIVE FSS BRIEFING ADVISING THEM R2910 WAS INACTIVE. ALL FLY THROUGH THE AREA AND ARE TOLD TO CONTACT THE CENTER TO EXPLAIN THEIR INTRUSION INTO ACTIVE RESTRICTED AIRSPACE.

Narrative: WHILE PLANNING A FLT I CALLED FSS AND OBTAINED A WX BRIEFING; ALSO SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF R-2910 WAS GOING TO BE HOT OR COLD TODAY. THE BRIEFER STATED THAT R-2910 WAS COLD. WE TOOK OFF AND HEADED TO DAB WITH OUR RTE RIGHT THROUGH R-2910; ALONG WITH 4 OTHER AIRPLANES. UPON LNDG AT DAB I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT JAX APCH. WHEN I CALLED JAX APCH; I WAS NOTIFIED THAT R-2910 WAS HOT AND THAT I BUSTED AIRSPACE ALONG WITH 4 OTHER AIRPLANES IN MY CONVOY. THE PROB WAS OBVIOUSLY CAUSED BY FAULTY INFO GIVEN BY A PROFESSIONAL BRIEFER WHICH CAUSED CONFUSION AMONG 5 EXPERIENCED PLTS. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THE BRIEFER WERE TO GIVE ACCURATE INFO AND ALSO IF I HAD CALLED JAX APCH (THE CTLING AGENCY) FOR THE RESTR AIRSPACE INFO WHILE INFLT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.